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Originally Posted by Azure
Didn't I say a few posts back that people who are 3x below the poverty level(or those that can't afford health care)....should get subsidized care? Didn't I say that doing that would be one way subsidized health care would work?
Does that still say to you that I think people shouldn't have health care if they can't afford it? No it doesn't so quit implying that.
All I'm saying(for the 12th time)...is that while subsidizing private health care only misplaces the cost. And who is supposed to pay for that? Who is supposed to pay for all the doctors, the nurses, the equipment, the hospitals, everything that results from 40 million people being added to the program overnight?
Why is it so hard to think beyond 'people deserve health care' and realize that you can't just implement a program without being concerned about cost.
People complain NOW about cost. Cost, cost, cost. People going bankrupt. People loosing their jobs, their livelihood, everything just to pay for health care. And those costs suddenly go away with subsidized health care? People might not be loosing their livelihood anymore, but the cost is still there. And that COST needs to be addressed.
And saying THAT does not imply that I hate poor people, am racist, or don't think people deserve health care.
Just in case some people reading this thread are inclined to think otherwise. Which, they still will be though.
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You give the distinct impression that you go to sources that will back up your preconceived notions and then come back here and repeat what you wanted to hear.
I'm not an expert on this plan by any stretch. I haven't read it and really, I have tried to ignore it because of the absolutely hysterical reaction it has brought from the stupid people like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and the ######s carrying guns to town halls and the mind-buggering hollering from people who are calling Obama a communist
and Hitler.
That being said, I did watch his big speech a few weeks back and he talked about getting rid of waste and clearing up the crazy malpractice expenses they have down there. Doing those things would clear up money and streamline the whole thing. Is that wrong?
Going by what you say, the idea is just to give 40 million people healthcare and claim it isn't going to cost a dollar, which is crazy of course. But that's not what he said on the television.
Put it simply, I heard him say that they should take the money that is wasted and spend it on useful stuff. Maybe that's pie-in-the-sky thinking or whatever, but he never said "give everyone healthcare and it won't cost us anything", which is what you seem to be suggesting is the plan.