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Old 09-21-2009, 07:00 PM   #104
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You've read plenty of religious criticism, but have you read any religious philosophy? Have you read religion?
Yeah and it makes me weep to think of all that energy spent on folderol and flapdoodle. Imagine if Saul of Tarsus would have been an engineer - he could have built a great aqueduct to water the deserts! Or if Augustine had invented the horsecollar and revolutionized agriculture 600 years early! Or if Luther had been a writer, and had written a classic novel still studied today for its insight into human character!

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Philosophy is everything.
How is that different than someone who claims that science is everything? I think you are projecting your own monomania when you make claims about how atheists here think.

Philosophy is like abstract mathematics in that it can be useful - but only through serendipity and not design. One of the great flaws of philosophers is that they far over-estimate their importance, for philosophy is but one of many inputs that guide modern thought. Von Clausewitz, for example, had as much of an impact on the 20th century as Marx; Henry Ford and his cars did more to liberalize sexuality than any beatnik professor declaiming free love.
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