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Originally Posted by peter12
Argh, my first instinct was to snipe back, but your post is such a perfect case in point... Let me clarify, I read political philosophy part-time and will hopefully one day both read and teach it for a living. I am familiar with atheism. People don't change, here have always been skeptics and in no way does Charles Darwin represent any sort of meaningful breakthrough in the search to falsify or confirm the existence of God.
The sectarian differences and their contradicting claims to truth really do not represent any sort of meaningful obstacle to religious truth. You want to uncover more, you uncover the philosophy. You attack the particular damage it does to the human spirit. Now none of the philosophers ever discount religion, to do so would be foolish. That is my first problem with the humanists.
Second, the proper way to understand religion is to study its impact on the human spirit. You have nothing with which to replace religion, except for cold materialism. There is no eros in your thought. It is cold, boring, and frankly, stupid. Go read Rousseau and see what he had to say about Christianity. He disliked it, but he suggested something radical and wonderful to replace it.
We all dislike sectarians, except most people are themselves sectarian. The Darwinian humanists or atheists are as bad as anyone else. You have a bare grasp of humanity, preferring scientists to do your thinking for you.
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I've read plenty on religion, thank you. I have a minor in religious studies from the UofC with a focus on the nature of religion and I do all my own thinking.
Show me where I attacked what religion does to the human spirit. I did say we shouldn't pander to the hurt feelings of religious people when discussing the validity of their claims, but that wasn't to dismiss any positive they take out of religion and apply to their lives - that is a separate issue.
A claim is either right or wrong. Jesus was either born of a virgin or he wasn't. The fact that a Christian really really really wants this to be true doesn't enter into it and the fact that they will be upset when they learn that virgins can't get pregnant as evidenced by fifth grade human sexuality also doesn't matter. What matters is truth.
This discussion has had nothing to do with religion's affect on the human spirit - we have been discussing whether or not the actor that played Boner's best friend's assertions are true or false. They are false.