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Originally Posted by Iowa_Flames_Fan
That's a bizarre list, Azure. It looks like you're comparing two different things: two-tier and single-payer. You need to do an apples-to-apples comparison: based on who pays and who has access--though that would admittedly be a more complicated process, and perhaps not the sort of thing where a quick google search would count as research.
Also--what makes those the "top 10"? How are you defining "two-tier?" What are the costs as a percentage of GDP?
Sorry, before you accuse me of being shrill, you'd better find some facts to back up your claim that two-tier health care is efficient. Even if we accept your list (and for the record, I don't... France as a two-tier system? lol! Oman in the "top 10" over Sweden, Norway, and the UK?! What is it they say on the internet? Oh, yes: ROFLMAO!) it still doesn't speak at all to my point, which was not that according to your definition single-payer health care is better--merely that as a percentage of GDP it typically costs less.
Not to mention the tortured logic of your post: because 6 of the "top 10" health care systems are two-tier, therefore two-tier is better. That just hurts my brain. One part false dilemma, one part begging the question with a sprinkle of "appeal to common practice." You need to find some evidence that actually supports your claim.
Until then, you're offering about as much as Cowperson did in his post. A little folksy rhetoric on top, but not a lot of filling in the pie beyond calling your opposition names, I'm afraid.
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But, IFF, I was held to account for understanding single-payer systems and I found that the measurements used to calculate single-payer health care costs are different than two-tier health care costs. After attempting to normalize the two to something comparable, there is virtually no difference in costs. It appears that proposals and opinions presented by the Physicians for a National Health Program are being quoted as some kind of factual evidence, whereas I have found no actual fact - simply theory and conjecture (not unlike the opposing viewpoint.)
The most objective literature I could find indicated my previous point. There is not enough evidence to support a difference in costs between single-payer and two-tier.
(And please don't ask for the bread crumb trail of my searching and reviewing. Have of it was gleaned from online book review pdfs. Rest assured though that if I could find this stuff, anyone can.)