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Old 09-16-2009, 11:02 AM   #447
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Originally Posted by transplant99 View Post
Where did I say its a bad thing and wont admit it?? Strange statement.

And what exactly does this "reveal" about me?



Pretending?? Wow. I sleep just fine though...thanks for your concern. And it is different...completely and entirely.



Finally you see the light!! Working WITH them...not AGAINST them... to topple them and usurp power.

Of course he needs support or gets toppled..as the left has been clamoring since last December..its how the system works. But sorry I dont see where the opposition was working WITH the government back then. No where and no how.

And you still claim its the same thing?
I should probably clarify that the "sleeping at night" comment was intended as tongue-in-cheek... really not trying to start a fight here.

In any case, I'm now even more puzzled. To wit, here are the facts of the situation as you and others have presented them.

The NDP, Liberals and Bloc "working together" amounts to a coup. This is because
a) there was a written agreement
b) it was six weeks after an election
c) some polls showed Canadians didn't like the idea.

The Tories and the Bloc or NDP "working together" is a good idea. This is because
a) this part confuses me. Something to do with "usurping power," which is a term that as I understand it has no applicability in a democracy.
b) some logic about how the tories are "the government" and so therefore others should "work with" them and not the other way around.

Really, the democratic principles that this argument rests on are pretty weak. Because Harper got a tiny plurality of the vote that means other parties have to let him wreak his will upon parliament, rather than attempting to exert some control over policy? I don't think so. Keep in mind that over 60% of Canadian voters chose somebody else.

If anything, that means it's incumbent on Harper to work with the opposition in order to keep his government in office. He may finally be realizing that--which is a good thing. I just think it's a little hypocritical for him to pretend that last fall was anything untoward when
a) he had made a similar (if informal) agreement with the Bloc when he was in opposition and
b) he shows willingness to work with "socialists and separatists" if it's to his own benefit.

Like CaptainCrunch said "a politician talking out of both sides of his mouth." Nothing unusual, really.
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