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Old 09-15-2009, 12:25 AM   #341
Clever_Iggy
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Originally Posted by valo403 View Post
This comment confuses me, pro style change? If anything college football has changed waaaaaay more than pro football, the wildcat and assorted formations have existed in college for a decade, I really don't get how you can watch college football and then make a comment like that unless I've totally misinterpreted.

BTW, look at the recruits over the last 5 years and you'll find that the Big Ten has taken in more than its share of 5 star athletes out of every elite football state in the country with the exception of Big 12 territory. Players aren't avoiding Big Ten programs at all.

Also, if you really believe the Pac 10 is breaking away form the Big Ten please back that up. USC has broken away, the rest of the Pac 10 is within a touchdown one way or another from a comparable Big Ten team, and based on this weekend so is the elite of the Pac 10.
Just to clarify, are you an actual Big 11 fan or are you just arguing for argument sake? IIRC, you attend some law school in Michigan, but not at a Big 11 school, so did you grow up in the area?

First, Florida, USC and several other elite programs have developed a more pro-style offense over the past 5-7 years. OSU has stayed with the traditional power run formation and other offensive schemes that were popular year ago. I think that's problematic because of the quality of athletes that are available for coaches to use now. I think OSU's problem outside of the conference is a direct result of their old and near-obsolete choice in offense.

As for their five star recruits, who? I'm looking at the roster and 96 of the 113 players are from Ohio, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Illinois or Indiana. The majority of the 17 or so, non-Big 11 players are from either Florida, NY or Georgia. I would take the time to look at the lesser Big 11 teams, but I suspect that if the "flagship" program of the Big 11 recruits 90% of their players from Big 11 country, that will hold true across the board.

USC and Cal are the big teams in the Pac-10 v. Penn State and OSU. I would say that's a pretty easy wash for the Pac-10. I would say the ineptitude of Washington, Washington St matches the ineptitude of Northwestern, Indiana, or Purdue. I would take the remaining Pac-10 teams (AZ St., AZ, Oregon, Oregon St. Stanford, etc...) over the remaining Big 11 teams fairly easily.

I don't know what else you want me to dissect. Heismans? National Championships? Showing up in important games? Not having coaches that look like librarians? I favor the Pac-10, you for whatever reason favor the Big 11. I doubt I'm changing your mind and you're not changing mine that the Big 11 sucks.
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