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Originally Posted by Dion
The realtionship was good based on the offer that was presented and the fact the union recommended the members accept. Everything after that was forced by the employees creating this supposed anomosity we read in the media. If O'Halloran could convince saner heads to think properly this strike would be over in a heart beat.
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That still doesn't explain why the offer got rejected. Something is missing here; a few hotheads don't win a vote by themselves. That's why I don't trust what the media is reporting or the motives of anyone involved - on the surface it seems like these workers are acting completely irrationally, and that is almost never the case.
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Originally Posted by Dion
I also highly doubt Safeway wanted an escalation of things. Any disruption to thier business is not a good thing - not to mentioin thier customers. Orders not arriving on time means empty shelves and disgruntled customers. Safeway doesn't want to risk losing customers in such a competitive enviroment. Having your shopper going elsewhere for stuff you don't have could lead to losing that customer all together.
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If they didn't want an escalation, why not renegotiate? Or, for that matter, cave in? Or let the union go on their rotating strike? Not "wanting" to escalate is on about the same level as my not "wanting" to have to work for a living - in both cases, there's a reason why the action doesn't seem to suit the purported attitude.
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Originally Posted by Dion
Everything you hear in the media from the union is merely PR to support the employees. That letter I posted tells a much different story.
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Yah of course it's PR. You have two sides telling a story and neither of them makes much sense, which to me means we're not getting the real reasons behind the strike or behind the company's offer. Is the 40 hour work week THAT important to the company that they won't budge on it? How are they running their operations now if it is that critical? Why did the union leaders agree to a deal that was so decisively rejected by the rank and file? Why is the entire corporate culture so apparently dysfunctional?
Anyway, this has little to do with my original point, which was more of an observation that when it comes to union-company conflict, you can almost guarantee there will be 50% posters saying something on the order of "fire those union bums and bring on the scabs", 20% saying "unskilled labour should be helots living in squalor and falling all over themselves to compete for places in the workhouse", and another 20% saying "My dad's friend's sister's son was in a union, and they cut off the last three inches of his willy to make him conform to the standard union penis length. True story."
(Although to be fair, this thread hadn't gotten all the way there yet. But I'm not going to let the facts get in the way of my ranting.)