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Old 09-11-2009, 11:51 AM   #52
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To-may-to, to-mah-to in this case. According to the letter that Dion posted, the union presented Safeway with notice of strike action after the vote failed. Safeway simply told them not to bother.
Well, there seems a vast difference to me between Safeway saying "We think our offer is fair, but if the union disagrees and wants to strike then that is their prerogative" and "You're going to strke? No, we're locking you out!" The latter is quite a bit more confrontational, which matters in deciding who is ultimately at fault in the work stoppage.


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And yeah, I can totally see where working an extra half hour a day is totally worth giving up 14% in the middle of a recession. Sometimes when you are getting what is otherwise a good deal, you have to accept the situation is what it is and make a very small sacrifice.
That's your point of view, and I agree that it seems to be a good deal, but obviously the people working there don't, so there must be something to it. After all, the union leadership recommended the deal, so it's not like it was the union guys taking a hard stance, it was the workers not liking what they saw. Going on the basis of what is seen in the media isn't telling us the whole story, obviously, yet the reflex action of almost everyone is "Stupid unions! Fire them all!", which is what I object to: it's an argument based on ideology alone, which is never good.
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