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Old 09-07-2009, 01:58 PM   #83
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Originally Posted by EDBTZ12 View Post
I cannot explain how god got into power but there has to be something that explains how the human body and this earth was formed. Everyone has their choice of what to believe in and that's fine.
Proposing a God does nothing to explain anything, it only pushes the question back one more level. I might as well say "the beginning of the universe is incomprehensible and cannot be explained" as "God is incomprehensible and cannot be explained". As a reason for belief, it fails entirely - yet for some reason it is continually raised as if it actually had some power to convince.

However, in principle it may indeed be possible to explain the beginning of the universe, which would be the ultimate attack upon the "God" hypothesis. If that day ever comes, it'll make the debate over evolution seem like a mild disagreement between good friends in comparison.

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It's impossible to disagree with anyone's opinions because it is impossible to prove them wrong or even prove it right. Without people believing in religion i think this world would be a lot worse.
The existence of a God or gods is not a question of proof, it is a question of probabilities. You can't use logic to *prove* God exists, which has been a mistake of philosophers through the ages. Either it exists, in which case your proof is superfluous, or it doesn't, in which case your proof is wrong.

Looking at the evidence for or against a God allows you to assign a *probability* to its existence using logic, however. I can certainly disagree with an opinion based on faith, and you can disagree with one based on probabilities - but what I can't do is accept that "faith" is an unanswerable argument and that people of faith should not have their beliefs questioned.

I can't *prove* that faith is misplaced, but I can certainly point out where it conflicts with observed reality. You are free to point out any flaws in my reality, as well - if you can find them.
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