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Originally Posted by jammies
So what you're implying is that the administration should have told Druh that her idea was silly and she couldn't have her road closure? 'Cause otherwise I'm not sure what exactly the administration did wrong here, they followed the process to grant said road closure impartially - which is as it should be, isn't it?.
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When the process results in bad decisions either the process if lawed or the wrong people are making the decisions.
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As far as coming up with ideas goes, what process should they be using? From what I see, council members come up with ideas and/or present them from their constituents, then they are debated as to their worth or appropriateness, and then they are voted upon. Both the operation of and the genesis of city initiatives are unremarkable and ordinary; I'm not seeing where the process is the problem, as it is the same, time-tested process almost every other municipal council in the world uses.
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It may not be the process. Perhaps Druh simply needs to be blamed for starting the entire mess.
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Should Bronco be brandishing the iron fist for council members who don't agree with his agenda of roads, roads, roads for the people? Should the voters be forced to endure a "do-over" when they vote for ditzy or demagogue alderpeople? Open warfare between the suburbs and the core until one stands bloodily victorious?
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I don't buy into this suburbs v. core thing that people keep trying to turn this into. That's not with this about. A lot of people in the core didn't like the idea.
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Originally Posted by jammies
That's th e issue I have with this brouhaha: there's all this outrage, yet it seems to be directed nowhere useful. What alternative strategy - other than just not voting Druh in next election - is going to stop this kind of "problem" (which, to reiterate, I don't think is a problem in the first place) from occurring again? Does anyone on the anti-closure side have a point other than that they don't like the idea and wish somehow it could have been prevented by some unnamed and unimaginable power?
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If bad ideas like this are brought forward they should not be approved. Simple as that - and I'm sure somehow the process allow for stupid idea to be shot down.
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Although this is really a broader philosophical question, I will say that all of us are forced to act from imperfect knowledge. I don't *know* what methods people use to arrive at their opinions, but that doesn't mean it isn't possible to make a reasonably probable guess. If that makes me an assumptionist, I guess I'll live with it.
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You can make a guess if you want - just realize it is a guess and nothing more.
I think it's unnecessary to try and guess how people arrive at their conclusions and get in their heads because everyone's noodle works differently.