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Kjesse · 08-19-2009, 10:58 PM

ROFL at blaming this guy for the recession... even in part... hyperbole much?

Back on topic, Frank is not very impressive defending the Obama health plan beyond the soundbites, because while I think universal health care is the right thing, even for the US, the plan as it stands can't help but whittle away at the private plans until they die (at least the way I read it).

In the longer videos with Frank (they're everywhere, check CNN, Youtube, etc, about 6 minutes long), that point is made by a greyish-haired small businessman, who then gets sidetracked by the raise taxes response. Then everyone starts yelling and the discussion turns to taxes. That was too bad, because the small businessman hit on the biggest problem. The small businessman should have challenged Frank's assertion that the $2 billion the government was going to spend "one time only" would work.

Its silly to think that it would work. It has too many potential problems... but that hasn't been hashed out enough.

The Obama-is-Nazi chick is a great example of why I'm worried about our friends to the south.

Edit: video link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGgnNeMv-v4

Edit: small business guy at 3:40

Edit: Looking again, the small-business guy raised the tax thing himself... its his own fault eroding away his best argument and the point of the town hall which on first viewing I blamed on Frank.

08-19-2009, 10:58 PM	#19
Kjesse Retired Join Date: Oct 2003 Exp:	ROFL at blaming this guy for the recession... even in part... hyperbole much? Back on topic, Frank is not very impressive defending the Obama health plan beyond the soundbites, because while I think universal health care is the right thing, even for the US, the plan as it stands can't help but whittle away at the private plans until they die (at least the way I read it). In the longer videos with Frank (they're everywhere, check CNN, Youtube, etc, about 6 minutes long), that point is made by a greyish-haired small businessman, who then gets sidetracked by the raise taxes response. Then everyone starts yelling and the discussion turns to taxes. That was too bad, because the small businessman hit on the biggest problem. The small businessman should have challenged Frank's assertion that the $2 billion the government was going to spend "one time only" would work. Its silly to think that it would work. It has too many potential problems... but that hasn't been hashed out enough. The Obama-is-Nazi chick is a great example of why I'm worried about our friends to the south. Edit: video link:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nGgnNeMv-v4 Edit: small business guy at 3:40 Edit: Looking again, the small-business guy raised the tax thing himself... its his own fault eroding away his best argument and the point of the town hall which on first viewing I blamed on Frank. Last edited by Kjesse; 08-19-2009 at 11:10 PM.