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Old 08-19-2009, 05:27 PM   #1673
JayP
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Originally Posted by moon View Post
So because I said walks and all that means that I clearly think that Moneyball is all about walking and OBP?
It's more that you somehow think the fact that Youkillis turned out to be a great player is a reason Moneyball doesn't work. The real fact is that at that time Youkillis was thought of as a very average prospect that Boston didn't value that highly. Moneyball is all about finding those guys (although Beane could never trade for Youkillis).

Since then, valuing OBP (and SLG/OPS) has become mainstream and, as such, the Moneyball philosophy has very little to do with that anymore.

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I have never said he wasn't a good prospect but top 5 is very debateable, especially the hands down part. I would agree with Keith Law and say that Snider is in the top 20 right now.

My issue is with guys like McCown (who called him the top prospect in MLB) and Wilner, as well as fans on other sites, who have this guy as a top level contributor next season who look only at the fact that he hit a HR and use that as proof that he is going to be ready sooner than later while ignoring the fact that he has still struggled to hit at the MLB level.

I think he is likely going to be very good, at some point, and think it is crazy that these people are planning on him being a solution to the Jays hitting woes next season.
I'd like to see quotes referring to Snider as an elite contributor because I haven't heard any.
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