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Originally Posted by photon
What do you expect him to do? With respect to this specific issue, I thought this wasn't a federal thing?
And if he is an evangelical Christian as you say, you do want him to bring his beliefs into his job and change the constitution to define marriage to be between one man and one woman?
I never wanted to make any kind of discussion about Obama's policies or actions or inactions, I don't follow politics close enough to talk about that meaningfully.
My only point was to contrast Obama vs Palin. While Obama may change his wording depending on who he's talking to (he's a politician), I don't recall him outright saying he will change the constitution to make marriage just between a man and a woman.
I haven't heard or read anything from Obama that would indicate to me that he lets his religious beliefs, whatever they are, influence his politics.
Palin was the opposite.
I get this vibe from Harper too.. while I guess one could say that he hasn't touched same sex marriage issues because of the minority government, I really do think that if he got a majority he would still leave it alone, despite his (presumed) personal beliefs.
No politician ever lives up to the rhetoric of their campaign. Getting elected is about capturing the imagination of the unwashed masses better than your opponent, playing the media better, getting more mindshare.
An election is less like voting to decide the course the country will take for the next while and more like competing advertising campaigns between Coke and Pepsi to see who will sell more drinks next quarter.
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Evangelical Christians do not necessarily oppose gay marriage.
My problem with Obama was that he was specifically elected on the idea of change. It was his moto. He has done nothing yet.
Gay marriage would be a good starting point.
My problem with your argument was that you were essentially making things up about the conservative candidates and ignoring actual facts about Obama. Partisanship at it's worst. This leads only to irresponsible government.
At the very least Palin makes her intentions clear. I don't know what is worse someone who does something I don't like. Or someone who tells me they will do the opposite but fails to do so.
I don't like Palin (although she would have been vice Prez, so I'm not sure why she is the main focus of the debate as nobody ever seems to mention Mr. Bidden), but Obama is quickly proving himself to be no different.
In other words: The proof is in the pudding.