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Old 08-17-2009, 03:31 PM   #855
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Okay. Fair enough.

However, what I believe or you or anyone for that matter is immaterial to anyone else. If a man wants to believe in "Planet X" for example. Who are we to stop him or tell him he is a freak? I believe it's sci-fi but great on him! He is not hurting anyone for his belief. I ran into a guy (looked really unhealthy) and he was spouting off on the great cleansing! And the realignment of negative energy to neutral. Thus balancing the heavens and returning man to it's rightful peaceful existence. etc. Do I believe that? Hell no. But it was the best conversation I had all weekend. Where did I find this guy? Out having coffee at a starbucks. I strike up conversations with all kinds of people that I don't know. The thing is, I don't believe one is crazy to believe in GOD or the Devil, or inter-dimensional plains. Who cares as long as what you do does not harm another IMO.

So I'll offer to you, if you are truly inclined to care, that I'll go back in this thread and post what I think on each topic I brought up and then you can comment constructively and without malice what I post. If a response is posted with malice or not constructive I will ignore it.

Fair?

Some of the stuff I put in here.... Ha ha ha yes if one believes I have faith in the specific topic I can see how some may want me seeing a specialist... "But I'm not harming anyone!" LOL
Fair is fair, and I'll do my best to be constructive here as I point out several contradictions you've made in just your last few posts.

1st, you say you understand my point that when you post something without commentary, it's reasonable for someone to assume that is an edorsement of the information on that site, yet when asked by Resolute for the names of the people that the website is claiming to have resigned (something I couldn't find either), you instantly went back to your old standby of accusing everone of being a child. This is something you've done nearly every time anyone has asked you for any sort of proof to any of your claims. Wheter of not you belive in this particular theory is irrelevant.

You say you won't deal with people who are malicous or are "Pricks" yet calling everyone childish is your go to response when someone asks you to substantiate your claim. It seems to me that you are the one who is preemptively malicious, and much of what you precieve as malice towards you is in fact a response to your lack of cooperation, and perpensity to calling everyone a child.

Asking someone to present evidence of a belief (that in this case the poster thought you shared) isn't childish, it is rational thinking.

The point of debate is to gather your arguments in a logical way and to present them with proof so that they can be substantiated. Telling the people on the other side to go look it up themselves, if they don't belive you, is not only a horrible way to convince people that they are correct, but in my opinion is in fact the childish response.

If you're really interested in debating, spreading your way of thinking, or even just informing people of what they might not know, then you're going about it all wrong.

Take for example the freeman-on-the-land concept that has been talked about so much. We've asked you to present proof on occasions too numerous to count, and you've flat out refused to tell us anything of your own experience, somthing that if what you're telling us is correct you should have plenty of experience to back it up. Instead you call us childish and tell us you won't spoon feed us.

So then what is your purpose in telling us these things?
If you want us to know so that we can learn about it, then you're not doing a very good job of convincing anyone. I've never had a teacher tell me that if I don't believe them it's my responsiblity to run the experiment myself and verify it. They've shown me proof off their claims.

If however your reason for telling us all of this is so that you can flaunt that you don't have to pay speeding tickets, and can't be arrested, with no intention of sharing how we can share in your good fortune, then that is really akin to a 6 year old nephew telling me "Guess what? I've got a secret".

So which is more childish? Asking someone to show you what what they claim is true. Or refusing to give proof when someone doesn't belive you?
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