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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty

It is Obama's job to make progress in Afghanistan, regardless of "who started it." No president starts his term in vacuum, he has to play hand he was dealt. Ultimately, he will be judged on how well he cleaned up the mess he didn't cause.

Yeah, I agree but it's been going overboard, as if Afghanistan is Obama's fault. It will take some time.

As for screwing the economy, you cannot lay the blame squarely on Bush either. Clinton, Fed, political decision and subsequent push to increase the number of minority (low income) home owners, Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac ring a bell?

Yeah, I agree here too but Bush was on patrol when the crap hit the fan and he was in position to see it coming. I mean even I saw a problem with their tax breaks for mortgages and I don't follow the economy much.



Disagree. What problems did Obama tackle, or at least tried to? He pushed some of his ideological agenda (such as free health care for all) but I don't see him tacking real issues (granted, I focus on economy/foreign policy so I may have missed an issue here and there).

He is over 7 months into his 48 month term, the honey moon should be over by now. People are right to start asking questions.

I think he's only been in power about 5 months but anyways he's been facing one crises after another, not of his own making and he still has time and drive to push through health care. If he does this one thing he'll have accomplished more than Bush did in 8 years.