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Old 07-31-2009, 04:23 PM   #230
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They don't have a superior one on one defender.
Nor a superior shotblocker.
Nor a superior rebounder.
Nor a superior help defender.

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Nor did they when they won 47 games and finished first in the Atlantic division
I think Garbo was underrated defensivly, Rasho was average, Delfino was good, Ford was a solid help defender...none of those are true about our current starters...But I agree with the point broadly.

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They had a mediocre at best defense and a good offense. Not unlike the vast majority of teams in the East.
Not sure if I agree with that. How many playoff teams from last season were less than mediocre on defense? Looking them over, I see none. Atlanta maybe? At least no teams that were worse defensively than I think the Raps will be this year.

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Putting a good defensive team on the floor ain't easy in the NBA. There are a ton of me first players and the league is riddled with crappy defensive teams.
Sure, teams that play defense make the playoffs. Teams that don't, don't.

Guess which column the Raps are in.

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It requires committment from one of your star players like a Tim Duncan for example. A top notch two way player. Something Bosh could easily do a better job of though he ain't never going be in Duncan's league defensively. Bargnani improved in this area a lot last year.
I concede that if we had an excellent man and help defender we'd be better defensively.

We don't.

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They don't need to be a defensive powerhouse. There a very, very few teams in that category in the NBA. They just need to actually play some. I watched a ton of NBA games last year and I can tell you as I'm sure any BB fan knows there wasn't a heck of a lot of defense played in the hardly any of them.
Hardly any defense in any NBA games?
I categorically disagree with that.

Good defensive teams force bad shots and rebound. The Raps do neither.

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Their offense is going to be good. Their defense just needs to not suck beyond belief.

Does that make them conference winners--NO. But in the the hunt for the 4/5? Yep. Because the rest of the teams in that category all have as big as weaknesses as the Raps.
This is where your premise falls apart. Even if I accept your assertion that few teams consistently play well defensively and the league is driven by offense, what are opposing team's weaknesses that the Raps - who don't rebound and lack athleticism - are going to exploit?
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