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Originally Posted by habernac
The bad joke here is that some people think being stoned and driving isn't as serious.
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Being stoned is a whole other animal. The effects are different, tolerance is different, hell even the way in which you get high is different (i don't mean one is smoking and one is drinking, I mean the levels of highness)
Driving stoned and drunk are almost opposites. By this I mean that you are most high immediately after smoking and as time goes by you get less and less high, therefore making it more safe to drive.
Being drunk you actually get more and more impaired the more you consume alcohol (this of course can also work with weed if you keep smoking but let's assume you only smoke one joint). With booze you are actually least drunk after your first one, assuming you are going to have many.
So unlike with liquor where you'll be most dangerous at the end of the night when you've had all your drinks (assuming you are drinking to get drunk and smoking enough weed to get high, not at the same time of course, 2 different scenarios).
With weed you are most dangerous right when you are done smoking the joint.
Another thing to consider is that almost everyone gets the same kind of drunk. Assuming each individual gets "drunk" regardless of tolerance the effects will be similar. (see post 124 for descriptions of various blood alcohol levels)
Weed is totally different. Habernac I'm going to assume you don't smoke weed. As such if you get high you shouuldn't drive for at least a few hours. I smoke weed about once a week. If we smoke the same amount of weed you are going to be out of your mind and I'll probably be moderately high. See the thing about building up a tolerance for weed is that it doesn't quite work the same as a tolerance for booze.
I literally can't get as high as I can drunk. With high, I am either high, sort of high or not. There isn't really an equivalent of being buzzed, tipsy, wasted and blacked. I just can't smoke enough weed to get blacked because my tolerance for weed is too high.
That is not to say that there aren't times when i avoid driving, usually the first 20 or so minutes after I smoke a big fatty. That is also not to say that there aren't levels of high, just it kind of plateaus where with booze there is no limit.
Bottom line is that when I drive high it isn't as bad as driving drunk. That is a fact.
For you, it might be. Just as it may be equally as dangerous for many other people out there.
When I first smoked weed about 10 years ago, I was out of my mind high. Even watching the tap water run was hilarious, I got the giggles, I thought WALKING was hilarious. Sometimes I even lost control of my feet and they danced on their own (seriously).
Now stuff like that just can't happen. To repeat, unlike booze which doesn't have a ceiling of drunkenness, me smoking pot over the years has built up a ceiling that I just can't break. Unless I quit for a long period of time it just will never be the same as smoking for people who only smoke once a month, year or lifetime.
So, for ME (and many, many others), smoking weed and driving isn't nearly as dangerous as driving drunk. Obviously there are times I try and avoid driving. When I'm really baked RIGHT after a big joint or bong hit, right after I smoke hash or oil, and generally night time highway driving (deer and such).
However, your post is just plain wrong. You can put it in context by saying it is just as, or more, dangerous for you but it most certainly isn't for me.
Drinking and driving is basically the same for everyone. If you are at or above .0_ (whatever your opinion of drunk is, I'm not even going to debate that). For weed I simply cannot get as high as someone who smokes weed every day. Doesn't matter how much or how little I smoke, unlike booze, I cannot overcome that tolerance I've built up smoking a joint every weekend or two for the past 7-8 years.
Basically, other than the first 20 minutes after smoking, I am only at 2 beers "high" when I smoke. That is to say on a regular night of getting high I plateau at about 2 or 3 beers equivalent. However when i drink I can be several levels of "drunk". Some of which are safe to drive at, like 2 or 3 beers, and some aren't, anything between 5 or 6 and 15 (depending on time and such).