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Originally Posted by Pokerface
I believe just because you claim something to be art doesn't mean it should be nor does it make you an artist.
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I totally agree with you. For anything to be art it needs a creator and an audience and there has to be some kind of communication going on through the medium of whatever the work is.
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the craftsman that made it or the designer should be credited with that piece of art before Duchamp.
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Absolutely not. The craftsman made a urinal, Duchamp made it art. Without Duchamp it's just a urinal.
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That piece took something I believe defines an artist:
an eye for detail, space and shape that you first understand and then transfer into a creation whether that be a painting, drawing, sculpture, etc. ...
but in my mind if you don't have the talent and understanding to pull of a still life I don't consider you an artist.
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You're defining a craftsperson, not an artist. A good artist would, ideally, be a technically skilled craftsperson, but it's not necessary.