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Old 07-17-2009, 06:00 PM   #162
Knalus
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Here we go again. Read back through the thread.... the Canadian government is only RE-INSTATING the requirement that was already in place up to October 2007.
Then why are they getting upset? If it's so reasonable, why is it an issue that the EU is now hearing? If it's so reasonable, why is there retaliation?

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OK, your math sucks. You took the FIRST THREE MONTHS of 2009 to compare to the previous FULL YEAR. Oooopss, eh? And looking at that rate in the first three months, the claimant rate is still escalating.... rapidly. Go back and do the actual math and find that out for yourself if you don't believe me. If 3648 is the "going rate" quarterly, we are now on target for 14592 claimants this year alone.
Yup, the math is off a bit. My bad. The basic idea still holds that there is money that will go missing because of the Visa situation. You can find a flaw in the math - I respect that. You didn't find a flaw in the overall argument. However, part of the problem is that we are doing this all with assumptions - all of us. There are only a few numbers that we all know of as correct.

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Secondly, nothing has EASED about travel here from Mexico. It is the same as it has been. The ONLY reason we have seen an increase in Mexican tourists (and the included refugee claimants) is due to the States now requiring visas from Mexicans. Again, get your information straight.
Look at what I said. I did not say EASED, I said EASE. Oooopss, eh? Read any of the articles about Mexican tourism to Canada, and you hear about packages that are being put together for Mexicans, and the tour operators talk about ease. They also talk about it no longer being something they want to do. The fact that American has seen tourists flee to Canada reinforces the fact we will see a negative impact.


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And that is about all you did.
You can make numbers look really good, or really bad. I admitted my numbers are made up. I could have assumed that Mexicans spend $3000 per trip, or that they spend $200 per trip. I could have assumed that the numbers will drop by 2% or that they will drop by 90%. I admit that and agree. That's part of the point. One lost on you apparently.

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