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Old 07-17-2009, 05:19 PM   #152
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Originally Posted by Shawnski View Post
Here we go again. Read back through the thread.... the Canadian government is only RE-INSTATING the requirement that was already in place up to October 2007.

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I think those are the same numbers I have read as well. Just an FYI, to link a "long" link, highlight a word then hit the "insert link" button. You can paste the URL into it and it will be shorter.




OK, your math sucks. You took the FIRST THREE MONTHS of 2009 to compare to the previous FULL YEAR. Oooopss, eh? And looking at that rate in the first three months, the claimant rate is still escalating.... rapidly. Go back and do the actual math and find that out for yourself if you don't believe me. If 3648 is the "going rate" quarterly, we are now on target for 14592 claimants this year alone.

Secondly, nothing has EASED about travel here from Mexico. It is the same as it has been. The ONLY reason we have seen an increase in Mexican tourists (and the included refugee claimants) is due to the States now requiring visas from Mexicans. Again, get your information straight.



And that is about all you did. Since your initial math was wrong, so was this.



As Darryl Sutter would say, "anyone with Grade 10 math could do this". Apparently you don't have Grade 10 math.



WHERE has anyone stated that is the case or the desire?



OK, so on one hand you are saying that there are definitely fraudulent activity occurring and that Canada can only accept 10K cases, yet your "math" fails to show that there will be almost 15K FROM MEXICO ALONE. There is a whole planet to consider. And not only do we foot the costs for fraudulent activity but more importantly it clogs up the system so that those that truly need to claim asylum are not being helped quickly enough. Is THAT what you want?



More hogwash. Your whole post is based on poor math and complete misunderstanding of the issues and facts at hand.
Excellent post shawnski, you have saved me considerable time having to type out a counter to his post which was lacking in the math department.

You seemed to be a very informed citizen or someone who has some personal experience with these issues.

Anyone who suggests that imposing a VISA is the wrong thing to do should call any Immigration officer either at a POE (employed with CBSA) or inland (employed by CIC) and ask what their opinion is and if this is the right move. I would be willing to be a lot of money that more than 95% of the officers would agree that this is the right move.
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