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Originally Posted by Thor

I think since this discussion is getting more enjoyable as we go along, I would humbly suggest we remember that although we cannot disprove God, we can however do things like use reason/logic to understand age of the earth, the fossil record, evolution, and our vast understanding of the cosmos. Not to mention understanding who wrote the testaments, flaws, contradictions of religious documents that we know clearly today.

I mean there are people who think the earth is 6000yrs old, we know this to be untrue, faith over reason. Same goes for the overwhelming evidence from the fossil record, and of course that we evolved from simple life to the diversity we see today.

I personally am curious with those who believe in God, do you believe someone created that God? Do you believe there are other Gods that exist along side the one you believe in?

Thanks in advance.

I agree, we aren't discussion creationism vs evolution (both sides can be partially right anyways, but i digress)

anyways I believe that we don't understand time from God's point of view. think about this, we try to understand God from a small point of view, imagine for a second there is a God, would he/she really be a God if we could understand things the same as them? Would they be any more intelligent? How could they create such a complex creature? Anyways I don’t think we understand time, we see it as point to point, God probably has an overlooking view of things, doesn’t look at things in terms of our ‘time’. What happens in 1900 he can look at the same time as what happens in 2900, if that makes sense. So I think in terms of our time, what I believe is that he has always been there. He is God, how can something create God? Something had to have happened for him to be there or maybe he was always there.

Either way we have no idea of knowing how it started, science will never be able to explain fully how the stuff came into existence that created the big bang, and us Christians (or people who believe in God in general) will never be able to explain how God came into existence.

There are some things we just aren’t meant to know, because well, they just aren’t that important. If you or me know everything there is to know, including God and how time works, then what is left? Everyone knows everything and we become isolated as we decide we know everything so whats the point of even asking anyone anything, as we know and they know.

Anyways, I think it comes down to our understanding, if that makes sense.
Oh and for there being other Gods?

No, I believe there is one God, people from other Religions (Muslims for example) also believe in God, but as I mentioned earlier they believe different things about him as there is to much to God we can’t begin to imagine. Its like trying to put a backpack inside itself…

In other faiths (I am a Christian) they believe in Gods or beings etc, some parts of other faiths are based on what God would want, on loving God etc. there are probably parts of every religion that have things a little off, as there is interpertation and human error. But I believe there is one God.

And then there’s Satan, who I think tried to take over from God, as an angel of some sort (I am not sure what to think of angels etc but I think they exist, not as former people though…again I don’t know) and he got kicked out.