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I'm not setting this up to throw "you hate iggy!" in your face or anything - I'm just trying to understand the rationale of trading franchise players for prospects. I think trading Iggy in '05 would make more sense because that team wasn't as close to being contenders as the Jays are right now.
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Actually the Flames were much more contenders than the Jays because they were always in the play-offs with a shot to win while the Jays basically start the season with 0 shot to win because they can't even make the play-offs.
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Right now the Jays might have the 4th best team in the league (unfortunately, the other three are in their division) why blow that up? Do we really think that the return on a Doc trade (minus Rolen and other roster turnover) will be the best team in the league in a three years?
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I think you forgot the arguably before 4th there.
And the reason to blow it up is because for most fans finishing 4th in the division and not making the play-offs isn't that great no matter how many "moral" victories or 4th best team in the league awards the fans give the team.
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Player's salary: Close to, perhaps below fair market value.
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Burnett was overpaid, no way was he below fair market value.
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Trading Doc right now would lead to a greater return than trading him next trade deadline or leaving as a free agent. I do not contest that, but I think his contributions to the team are very important (plus he is not a sure bet to leave town like AJ was) and are worth more than a couple of (terrific) prospects that will either tank or want their own big money extension in a couple years.
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But those prospects have a 100% better chance of contributing to the Jays in 2 years when they may have a shot at the play-offs and Halliday is gone from the team.
It may, and I stress the may here, make sense to a Jays fan to keep Halliday because his worth to them is higher than to anyone else considering the emotional attachments they have to him, but from a purely baseball stand point it makes 100% sense to trade Halliday now.
I know it is tough but Gozer you are looking at it way too much from a "trading my favorite player away" than what is best for the Jays. And there is no problem with you not liking the deal for that reason but don't try to argue that it makes baseball sense for the Jays to keep him for a year and a half when they have no shot at the play-offs during that time.