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Old 06-29-2009, 09:18 PM   #236
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Originally Posted by Blaster86 View Post
AS with the original fandom, the Matrix was only useable by one that is chosen. Because the original Primes needed to see if Sam was worthy, it disintegrated so he couldn't use it.

Well, nevermind the fact that it is alien technology and they could likely have moved it with ease, you have seen the movie twice so I'll bow to you here. For some reason I thought he moved to them, not the other way around.

Wait... so doing it without addressing it is bad, but you admit they addressed it?

Build up matters.

Time lapse, like I said they editted those poorly.

http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Pretender

Robots that hide as humans, essentially.

And it would be boring, and stupid, and done a thousand times before. He's still trecherous, he's just not as over as other Starscreams.

Information dump. Show that the All Spark fragment still has power.

What plot holes? There was bad editting, and some minor stuff missed, but nothing major AFAIK.

Ratchet is the medic, introd in the first film. Jolt was the bot that revived Prime and merged him with Jetfire.

Jolt was a serious late addition. GM essentially forced their hand.

He destroyed it in secrecy? Cause... I'm pretty sure he didn't. I am pretty sure he got the Autobots kicked off of earth (before he saved it again) for that.

You're not the only one, but that link I showed from the LATimes shows you are in the minority.
See how you explained that thing about the matrix? The movie should have given that a shot.

Not really implied at all actually. Native people walking around, flash to tiger, flash to native people walking over hill flash to aliens cruising around big ass machine, flash to destruction.

Build up? Serious... your argument is 'story buildup' that they needed to discuss why they don't say the words "I love you" more?

Thanks, didn't know they could be human (not explained.. again). And not that it needed to either here, that's probably getting nitpicky on my part.

Would not have been boring, well, maybe if Bay did it. This is a storyline you could milk, big time.

All spark.. I guess so... I kind of just assumed it had power because I was watching a transformers movie and it scarred his mind when he looked at it and why did they all automatically become decepticons and why did they just start randomly attacking and.........

Time lapsing is a bit of a plot hole, is it not? Or does time not exist in this movie? Oops.. it doesn't, my bad. As for others... only a prime can kill the fallen... why? what? how about the whole unexplained matrix thing as described above. What happened to all the protection for Megatron, I only saw one sub when he surfaced.. honestly.. I could seriously go on and on and on with the plot hole thing.

Thanks for the Ratchet thing, forgot about that one. As for Jolt, was he introduced? I don't recall but maybe it was in passing just like Ironhide at the beginning. I'm pretty sure he wasn't, and if not, F-.

The autobots beat up the big one wheel thing and take half of Shanghai down in flames. Meanwhile later in the movie you've got internet geeks trying to find "hidden" footage of the disaster plus the scene with the parents talking about being sworn to secrecy. That's what I'm referring to, and that was completely stupid. Pretty sure giant robots wouldn't be a secret after transformers 1.

What? I'm not in the minority at all, as per my link plus the comments on this forum.
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