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The Matrix was in Petra, which is in Jordan, which is another country. But thanks for reminding me, why did the Matrix dissolve to sand and then form again? What was the purpose there? Honestly I am wondering, I don't get that.
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AS with the original fandom, the Matrix was only useable by one that is chosen. Because the original Primes needed to see if Sam was worthy, it disintegrated so he couldn't use it.
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The villagers climbed a hill. Must have been the same continental divide hill that splits up Jordan/Egypt! This obviously isn't a big deal, i"m just saying a) I knew tigers weren't in Africa in grade 1 and 2) maybe make it a bit more obvious they aren't in Africa anymore if that's the case because it looks pretty amateur. You don't see films shooting penguins in Las Vegas for a reason.
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Well, nevermind the fact that it is alien technology and they could likely have moved it with ease, you have seen the movie twice so I'll bow to you here. For some reason I thought he moved to them, not the other way around.
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Doing stuff like that the entire movie without actually addressing the problem is my issue. If you're going to bring it up 56 times at least have meaningful dialogue. He eventually says it at the end, which is nice, but you didn't need the 400 discussions inbetween. Anyways this point is pretty small for me because I appreciate the Megan Fox scenes.
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Wait... so doing it without addressing it is bad, but you admit they addressed it?
Build up matters.
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I don't know much about transformers, obviously, but why is she human? I thought they had to be bad ass robots? Why bother with the scene of him driving her home...? Ohhh yeah and that reminds me of another time lapse screw up. It's night when he drives her home, then he appears in a graveyard in daylight? Must be farther to get to the cemetary than Jordan to get to from the Giza pyramids.
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Time lapse, like I said they editted those poorly.
http://transformers.wikia.com/wiki/Pretender
Robots that hide as humans, essentially.
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I agree, because it would be this interesting thing called a storyline.
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And it would be boring, and stupid, and done a thousand times before. He's still trecherous, he's just not as over as other Starscreams.
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Actually that entire unnecessary fight scene at the house in the beginning was lame, why did it happen? No purpose.
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Information dump. Show that the All Spark fragment still has power.
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Look, I was quite happy with the first one, which this one decided to take a larry on and drive off a cliff for the franchise. I'm not looking for a realistic plot, read carefully here, I'm looking for a plot that makes sense, and when there are 500 plot holes its tough to take this movie for what it was trying to be, good. I haven't talked to one person who liked it other than reading people who are okay with bad movies in this forum because they have fire in them.
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What plot holes? There was bad editting, and some minor stuff missed, but nothing major AFAIK.
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edit: and I wanted to add... Blaster.. who the hell are Ratchet and Jolt? Were they introduced? Was one of them the silver car that randomly appeared?
Serious question.
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Ratchet is the medic, introd in the first film. Jolt was the bot that revived Prime and merged him with Jetfire.
Jolt was a serious late addition. GM essentially forced their hand.
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You mean the time he showed up and destroyed half of Shanghai in secrecy?
I'm not in the minority, I too paid money to go watch this lazy piece of work. Let's poll the audience, I don't care if it earned money that never really signals whether it was good or not to me. A movie's good based on, in my opinion, word of mouth which this one is getting pummeled with. Wait til Mikey Bay makes Transformers 3, we'll se what kind of numbers that puppy rolls in.
More of what worked would have suited me well. Transformers 2's box office numbers are a result of Transformers 1's successes, because trust me- I'm not the only one saying this stuff.
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He destroyed it in secrecy? Cause... I'm pretty sure he didn't. I am pretty sure he got the Autobots kicked off of earth (before he saved it again) for that.
You're not the only one, but that link I showed from the LATimes shows you are in the minority.