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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
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Oh come on man,
Galvatron had only a pyrrhic victory in Rebirth as the Nebulon-bonded Autobots fought back and won in the same story. Unless you are talking about Transformers: Headmasters the Japanese series where Galvatron succeeded in destroying Cybertron altogether.
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Both work. It was more than Megatron ever accomplished.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
G1 Megatron absolutely conquered Cybertron between 1985 and 2005 and forced the Autobots out completely.
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Oh yeah? Got proof? The only Canon during that period is Dreamwave and according to them, Shockwave did it (according to them Shockwave did everything though). Even still, the only Autobots that were on Cybertron for sure were the Fembots... yeah, tough to root out. Not an accomplishment.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
G1 Megatron killed Brawn, Prowl, and Ironhide, maybe Ratchet as well (unclear who shot him)...and likely many more Autobots in Autobot city (Wheeljack? Windcharger?)
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Negative. Brawn isn't dead (see Carnage in C-Minor. It's not an animation error. Shut up, let me dream.... I said shut-up). Prowl was killed by Scavenger, and Ironhide and Ratchet were both pretty much dead after being melted down by other Decepticons on the shuttle. Eitherway, all the damage done other than finishing off Ironhide was done by Starscream.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
G1 Comic Megatron captured the ark, disassembled all the autobots, hung them upside down in pieces on hooks and chains.
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That was Shockwave. He also had Megatron hooked up in a similar way he did the Autobots. When Megatron cam back to life, he tried to fight Ratchet and Buster... and lost.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
G1 Comic Megatron killed G1 Comic Optimus Prime without lifting a finger by getting Prime to play a videogame! Of course, Megatron h4x0rd but Prime was so stupid Megatron tricked him into allowing his self-destruct button to be pushed for losing the game.
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And Megatron can take credit for Prime being a tool? I don't think so. He actually LOST in the game, and Prime decided to kill himself because.... no one really knows? Wanted a break?
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
You're also forgettnig G1 Megatron also killed Prime by his own hands...and survived much longer than Prime did, could probably have lived with a few repairs whereas stupid Prime just turned grey and died on the table right after the fight.
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"You have nothing to fear, I've already crushed Optimus Prime with my bare hands!"
"You exaggerate."
What happens if Hot Rod doesn't get in the way to play human shield? Megatron goes home with a new hole where his head was. After all his bluster, and taking a piece out of Prime's side he still got over powered and beaten, and only won out because Hot Rod tried too hard.
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube
If there is a more ineffectual and stupid leader, it's Optimus Prime lol. He keeps getting tricked by Megatron into fighting all these cybertronian code of honor fights that Megatron rigs but Prime is so stupid he keeps getting himself killed or almost all the Autobots sent to melt in the sun because he is honorbound.
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Oh, I am not saying Prime is a great leader, but in the comics he's had his moments. Single handedly beating Unicron, defeating the swarm. Etc etc. Obviously Prime will never be my favorite Autobot leader since Blaster at one point led the Autobots.
Megatron has done nothing. He's dead a lot, gone insane, been cloned, but never actually succeeded. He got beat by Spider-Man for christ's sake!