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Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

photon, you are a moderator here correct? Well...........I just dont want to spend as much time here as you do.

To be honest neither did I (as far as spending time in this thread), but I have a pathological need to reply I think

The thing though is you talk about not wanting to spend time (which is completely fair!), but meanwhile you have already reached a conclusion and are unwilling to look at any of the evidence presented instead referring back to a film you saw. It's very easy to fall into an appeal to authority fallacy with this stuff.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

There are holes from BOTH views of this incident, and it is much easier to pick apart a "conspiracy theory" than actually doing your own research.

People HAVE done the research though. It's actually not easy to pick apart a conspiracy theory because it changes radically depending on who you talk to (because it's all based on emotion and unanswered questions rather than evidence).

You're throwing out factoids which have long been debunked, and the holes usually are unanswered questions which as I've said before are not evidence, and most of the unanswered questions are nonsense questions based on nothing manufactured in such a way to evoke an emotional response.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

I believe there is more to this attack than what meets the eye. 9/11 launched this massive effort called "the war on terror"....look how much has changed in our lives since then.

Sure it has. I don't doubt for one second that politicians will take advantage of ANYTHING for their own benefit. Even the way "terrorism" is used in the vernacular in the US is startling even now sometimes.

So why can't it just be politicians taking advantage of something for their own ends? Feeding Bush incorrect information so he makes a desired decision is far more plausible than nano-thermite.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

You guys can believe in what you want, but go ahead put blind faith in our government as honest and incapable of corruption.

False dichotomy fallacy. Paranoia and blind trust are not the two only options.

Originally Posted by mikey_the_redneck

Maybe some of you need to pull your heads out of your asses. North American politics/business is not lollipops and sunshine like you think it is.

Strawman fallacy. No one here is actually saying that, you are making that up so you can attack it.

When you have a statement with a logical fallacy in it, that means that the conclusion drawn is invalid (not necessarily incorrect, but invalid).

EDIT: I would like to add that I also see that 9/11 and the resultant government actions have had a chilling effect on civil liberties in the US, and people are fighting that, as they should. It's something that seems to go back and forth with time; I find it unlikely that the US would become even like the UK for that sort of thing let alone worse.