you can believe the engineers and universities, but i have not read any of those documents so i can't comment on it. just don't think i should 'believe' what you think i should.
as far as religion goes, i brought it up because they sell 100% certainty, similarly to what you seem to be pushing. i don't buy it.
please, don't reply to this post, as i am digressing from this thread. i spoke up because i think people can believe whatever they want, and should not be subject to badgering, granted, some in this thread provoked discussion, which is great, but not backing down and attacking somebody's belief is assinine.
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