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Old 06-07-2009, 09:32 AM   #189
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Would you want a child growing up with a 15 year old mother who lives on the street and is not capable of providing for the child? The burden of having to support a child so early in life may basically cripple the mother's life.

Would you want a child coming into the world if the mother had been abusing drugs and alcohol the whole time the child was in the womb, would probably suffer from some side effects from that and would likely be brought up around drugs?

Those are just a couple examples.

What pro-lifers seem to ignore is that you could be bringing a child into a potentially horrible life situation. A situation that does not give them a chance at a normal life. A situation that may lead to their death due to neglect, or the mother dropping the baby in a dumpster because she can't deal with it.

And unless you're stepping up to the plate to adopt, you can't suggest adoption for these thousands of babies that would be born as a realistic option for society. Personally I'm all for giving kids the best opportunity to have a successful and wonderful life. Some young girls are not at all capable of providing that and their families shouldn't be forced to bear the financial burden either.

A further issue is that some people who adopt, adopt babies from the 3rd world who also wouldn't have a chance at a good life. So are pro-lifers really expecting that it is realistic that every unwanted baby be adopted? I'd be interested in seeing some hard numbers posted by any pro-lifer as to the amount of abortions performed per year, the amount of adoptions per year, the demand for adoptions, the amount of adoptions from other countries, etc.

What do propose is done with them to give them a real chance at a good life? Do you really want 12 year olds raising kids? Rape victims raising kids who have the rapist's DNA and remind them constantly of being born out of sexual violence? Do you really want drug addicts raising kids? If someone doesn't feel they can be a good mother, I think they should have that choice. Do you really feel that if a condom breaks or birth control fails (and it does sometimes) that someone should be responsible for the rest of their life for an unwanted baby?

Not enough pro-lifers are talking about what should be done with unwanted babies. All I hear is, "must not kill innocent lives not matter what the extenuating circumstances are." If you don't want them aborted then what do you think should be done with them?
Not enough pro-choicers are saying that there are easily obtainable, cheap forms of contraception that could prevent nearly every one of your hypotheticals. All I hear is what about the unwanted babies of homeless, drug addicted teenagers? (As if that demographic represents a significant portion of abortions.) Yet not once has anyone mentioned personal responsibility in this thread.

Abortion should be legal because some babies might be unwanted. Well, when it's used as birth control, it's one of the most disgusting events on the planet no matter what your beliefs about when life begins are and it teaches some that they don't have to be responsible for their actions.

Those are legitimate issues that should be discussed as well.
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