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Originally Posted by Gozer
Not what I meant my friend. I meant this team is too lousy to have two starting calibre PGs when (this would be last offseason) we only had one other position with a legitimate starter (PF).
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Ah, well I will accord that then. I would argue we had two more starters in Rasho and AP, but that is neither here nor there and they can be argued as starters no where else but Sac. But, I will say that you will be forced to make a move like BC did, if this type of situation presents its self. In lieu of actual trusted NBA opinions, we both can say it was a bad trade. If one of the scenarios you did mention were to happen in lieu of what did transpire(wallage/maggette vs hibbert/rasho/tj) it may have been a differnet fate for the 08/09 raps.
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Originally Posted by Gozer
This is the sentiment I was trying to pre-empt. Having two players that could be above average for 36 mins each would get max 24 mins each. That's not good asset management.
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I understand that logically you have a case. If the minutes are as black and white as that, with everyone healthy all season then yes. However, one variable that can never be logically predicted (except with gaborik) is injuries. TJ is injury prone, and Jose incurred a bad hamstring strain this year. If the notion of both of them being unable to make a full year's worth of starts wasn't considered, why not then? And what would that count for? To me, that counts towards the playing time evening out somehow, with each of the players getting longer starts due to the other pg's health and endurance issues outstanding. Yet my point is moot. But, 24 wouldn't be max, just max when all are healthy and doesn't winning cure those types of issues? It's never a perfect world when you expect it, or want it to be and basketball teams are no exception; just ask lbj...
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Originally Posted by Gozer
I will debate that BC made a lousy trade, gutting the only real strength this team had (depth) without enough of an upgrade.
He then exacerbated that lousy trade by dumping JO's contract by giving away a 1st rounder.
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Okay, but during the response I have deliverd, I have begun to see BC differntly through the aid of your fair critiques and assertions.
Actually, he gave the first rounder for JO's contract, no(semantics)? Yet, I do agree with you that BC made a lousy trade and gutted the only real strength this team had, while aslo giving up a first and a solid verteran big. I think the Marion swap helped the team's starting lineup and the defensive presense. So, like you already stated except for one omission, the trade is a first, TJ, Rasho,
Moon for Shawn "FA to be" Marion and Marcus "bad contract" Banks. It doesn't scream good basketball deal, does it? And this is where I concede to you.
Hmm, I guess I thought that BC was a better exec than that? He did flip charlie for TJ, but the next deal was considerably worse. Also, the Kapono deal isn't that sweet after seeing what kind of player he actually is. I would rather Kyle "So Easy I could do it" Korver.
IMO, BC's fate is now intertwined with Triano's success. This type of discussion doesn't bode well for a guy that may have to trade his most valuable asset in the coming future(ie draft night).