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Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout
I think there is a lot of meaning in the opening scene of the season finale
This raises a few things.
1 - it's possible to change the past, whatever happens happens, you can change the future, BUT there are no alternate realities . . . it only ends once.
2 - I almost thing there's a Battlestar Galactica theme in that conversation. It's all happened before, it will all happen again. How long, and how many lifetimes has Jacob and the antagonist been fighting?
3 - Did Jacob intise the Black Rock to come? If so, I think he left the option up to them, ergo he didn't bring them here, they chose to go (think how Hurley got back to the island, Jacob convinced him by leaving the choice to him)
4 - Relistening to the conversation, is the ending always the same, just the events leading up to it are different? Perhaps Jacob always winning the war, and the antagonist wants to kill him thinking it'll be his turn to win? If so, I think Jacob's side will still be victorious.
5 - Is Jacob or the Antagonist evil? I'm calling him the antagonist because Jacob is the focal point and he is Jacob's enemy, perhaps he's actually the progatonist?
On a side note. How the hell did the shop keeper know that the kids were stealing? The gaul to just walk up and accuse them and go through their bags. He was clearly tied up with the customers. Stupid continuity! LOL
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Thanks for posting this stuff. I guess the rules that Richard was talking about refer to the "loophole". The game that Jacob and the antagonist are playing must have pretty strict rules.
Only the following people can speak with Jacob:
1) The leader, there is only leader at any given time. There may be additional restrictions to this as Ben has never seen Jacob before;
2) Richard, who is some kind of neutral referee who has been granted eternal life to referee the game;
3) and the Antagonist.
The antagonist, however, cannot kill Jacob directly.
The antagonist finds his loophole in that he can convince the leader to do his bidding. So the whole time Ben is really the leader, but the smoke monster tricks ben into thinking locke is and tricks Ben into thinking he must do whatever locke says. This is why he forces Ben to do his dirty business. The smoke monster also tricks Richard into thinking that Locke is the leader, which is why he never took him to Jacob before.
Also in the episode they make reference to richard as Ricardo which suggests he is spanish and came from the black rock.