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Originally posted by Indi+Jul 21 2005, 11:45 AM--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Indi @ Jul 21 2005, 11:45 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

Actually, it was a different union that got that for me... the CEP. However, the fabulous TWU took them over. Nice try though. The TWU is all about forcing people to join them. And as a matter of fact, I have nothing but compliments from my managers about my 'social graces'. I just don't abide by people who think they know what they're talking about, when they really don't. Perhaps if your brother took the time to learn both sides of the coin instead of the tripe the union feeds him, you'd have a different opinion about the union. Again, reminds me of the NHLPA sheep. They didn't question their 'ruler' either.

I happen to hold a position within the CEP union, I can't comment on the TWU, but the CEP is following this labour action, as with any other. It's always fine to sit on the sidelines and snipe about other people, but it takes cojones to actually get involved and try and do something. Do you realize how many steps Telus has circumvented in order to force the contract? Its plain to see that you are on the far right on this issue, while I may be slightly left, so there are two points of view, neither of them wrong or right, just different. I hope that this gets settled quickly and the employees arent out for too long.............good luck [/b][/quote]
I don't want the employees to be out for too long either. And if they really believe in the cause, I support their strike actions. However, what the union is telling it's members, and the actual story are two different things.

Do you think Telus is enjoying this? They obviously believe they also have it right in this matter. The minute they took partial lockout measures, they were threatened with immediate strike action. That's how it works. But they took that risk to get the contract to it's employees because the union wasn't doing so. Perhaps the union has a couple points, but why aren't they working on them instead of doing nothing? Why are they playing dirty? Does it help anyone?

The union is telling me that it is not concerned about the wages in Telus' offer, and yet your brother thinks they're fighting for cost of living wages. Which is it? Is the union happy or not with the wages offered? The union is telling me they are trying to protect my job security, so going on strike is helping, how? Why don't you reword the offer to what you feel is appropriate then? But they don't. As I said, if I felt the union was doing it's job, I'd picket too.

Unions have a place, but this is to the point where it's ridiculous. They've had 4.5 years to get a new offer out there, and they haven't done anything. That's not Telus' fault, that's the union working hard to earn my money.

And I have tried to get involved, I've talked to many. Unfortunately, this union is run by BC members, and TCI members, who have long supported the union, and they don't give a shinguard about my concerns. So I'm getting involved another way... I'm crossing. They should hear that more loudly than they heard my concerns last time.