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Old 05-10-2009, 03:41 PM   #91
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Did you really think I was talking about no support from the family...???
You weren't really "talking", it was more like ranting. Seriously. Go back and read your first post, you come across like you'd take some kind of weird pleasure from punishing (and I use the word deliberately) teenage mothers for getting pregnant by removing their social benefits to teach them some kind of "moral" lesson.

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Uhhh yeah I was talking specifically about teenage mothers...because this thread is about teenagers. When there's a thread about child support in general, I'll make a statement about that. Seems fair, no?
Well... no. If you don't believe in government child support at all, that is a relevant point to make when decrying government child support for teenagers. By making the statement that you did, you were saying that teenagers, and ONLY teenagers, shouldn't get such child support. If you don't see how that implicitly suggests that you aren't opposed to child support in general, I think you are being wilfully obtuse.

An analogy might be appropriate - if I came to this board and went on and on about how the Canucks are a disgrace to hockey, and thus the team should be disbanded, GM Place demolished and the ground salted, I might get some agreement from the easily amused section of CP. However, if I then revealed I hated hockey in general, and my hatred of the Canucks was more or less directly related to this new fact, don't you think that would be seen as deception by omission?

What you don't say is sometimes just as important as what you do say.

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As for the rest of your post, I am afraid that is far beyond the scope of this thread and I don't really think it is appropriate to talk about state vs free market here; but I'll say one thing - if you think that coercion is an acceptable way to transfer wealth then our debate would not go anywhere anyway
So, to clarify, you wish the government would try coercing teenagers to bring down the pregnancy rate, but other forms of coercion are unacceptable.
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