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Originally Posted by jammies
I'd say, judging from the reactions of not just myself, the clarity was certainly there but not for the meaning you suggest.
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Dude...In my very first post I said "...no support
from the government..."
Did you really think I was talking about no support from the family...???
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Originally Posted by jammies
Again you are retrofitting your argument onto your original rant. If you had said "NO ONE deserves child benefits, including these teen-age mothers, and maybe that would help with the number of pregnancies", that would be one thing. But you didn't. You specifically argued that teens be the ones to lose their benefits, and only teens. Now you're arguing a different proposition with a different justification and trying to pass it off as a mere elaboration on your original argument.
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Uhhh yeah I was talking specifically about teenage mothers...because this thread is about teenagers. When there's a thread about child support in general, I'll make a statement about that. Seems fair, no?
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Originally Posted by jammies
Also, it's not YOUR money once the government has it. It's the government's money. The government shouldn't waste it, but that has nothing to do with where it got the money - if I didn't pay any tax at all, that wouldn't mean I'd be ok with my government spending what money it had on hookers and blow just because I didn't have some mythical stake in its operations.
The government is beholden to the voters, not to the voter's - or anybody else's - money. I don't like paying taxes any more than you do, but if there is a better alternative, it certainly doesn't lie in some free-market dystopia hearkening back to the frontier days of robber barons, shady bankers and philanthropic societies of the smug and patronizing rich.
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As for the rest of your post, I am afraid that is far beyond the scope of this thread and I don't really think it is appropriate to talk about state vs free market here; but I'll say one thing - if you think that coercion is an acceptable way to transfer wealth then our debate would not go anywhere anyway
