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Old 07-20-2005, 09:42 AM   #4
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Originally posted by Cowperson@Jul 20 2005, 08:08 AM
"Under foreign occupation and denied a right to vote, denied the right to run your own affairs ... I suspect that if it had happened here in England we would have produced a lot of suicide bombers ourselves,"

I doubt it.

In two world wars, with many different east and west European countries under occupation, suicide bombings didn't appear to happen.

And the Brits certainly don't seem like the "type."

The rest of his statement is a political opinion.

Cowperson
That is true, but I don't think suicide attacks took off until Japan started doing it near the end of WWII.

For imperssionable young people, some of the statements in Bin Laden's decleration of war could seem rather reasonable.

Quote:
"If death is a predetermined must, then it is a shame to die cowardly."
Quote:
"Who do not die by the sword will die by other reason; many causes are there, but only one death."
And some more here (rather long)
Quote:
These youth believe in what has been told by Allah and His messenger (Allah's Blessings and Salutations be on him) about the greatness of the reward for the Mujahideen and Martyrs; Allah, the most Exalted said: {And as for those who are slain in the Way of Allah, He will by no means allow their deeds to perish. He will guide them and improve their condition. and cause them to enter the Garden of Paradise which He has made known to them} (Muhammad;47:4-6). Allah, the Exalted, also said: {And do not speak of those who are slain in Allah's way as dead; nay, they are alive, but you do not perceive} (Baqarah; 2:154). His messenger (Allah's Blessings and Salutations be on him) said: "For those who strive in His Cause, Allah prepared a hundred degrees (levels) in paradise; The difference between two degrees is as the distance between heaven and earth." Saheeh Al-Jame' As=Sagheer. He (Allah's Blessings and Salutations be on him) also said: "The best of the martyrs are those who do NOT turn their faces away from the battle till they are killed. They are in the highest level of Jannah (paradise). Their Lord laughs at them (in pleasure), and when your Lord laughs to a slave of His, He will not hold him to an account." Narrated by Ahmad with correct and trustworthy reference. And, "A martyr will not feel the pain of death except how you feel when you are pinched." Saheeh Al-Jame' As-Sagheer. He also said: "A martyr's privileges are guaranteed by Allah; forgiveness with the first gush of his blood, he will be shown his seat in paradise, he will be decorated with the jewels of belief (Imaan), married off to the beautiful ones, protected from the test in the grave, assured security in the day of judgement, crowned with the crown of dignity, a ruby of which is better than this whole world (Dunya) and its entire content, wedded to seventy-two of the pure Houries (beautiful ones of Paradise) and his intercession on the behalf of seventy of his relatives will be accepted." Narrated by Ahmad and At-Tirmidhi (with the correct and trustworthy reference).

Those youths know that the reward in fighting you, the U.S.A., is double the reward of fighting someone not from the People of the Book. They have no intention except to enter paradise by killing you. An infidel, an enemy of God like you, cannot be in the same heaven with his righteous executioner. Our youth chant and recite the word of Allah, the most Exalted
You can read the entire thing here. Although it is rather long, and very verbose.
http://wikisource.org/wiki/Osama_bin_Laden...laration_of_War
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