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Old 04-13-2009, 10:28 PM   #93
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We've tried intervention there, they don't want our help, so why bother.
Are you referring to Clinton's "Black Hawk Down" or Bush's funding of the Ethiopian invasion in 2007?

If by international intervention you mean poking them in the eye and kicking them in the balls then yeah, they probably don't want it.

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In 2007 an ex-GF and still good friend of mine went back to bury her mother who had recently died. I wasn't worried for her safety as it was a period of peace and calm. The warlords had been defeated. A rebel grass roots insurgency had risen up and against incredible odds had taken the country back. They had a solid government in Mogidishu and the country was building itself back up again. However, this power that took over the country was called the 'Islamic Courts' and some of the members had dark pasts and the U.S. did not approve of having yet another Islamic state in the region. So they backed Ethiopia's invasion. They provided funding and equipment for Ethiopia to invade what it saw as a country ripe for the picking... the warlords were beaten down and defeated and the new Islamic Courts was still trying to restore order to the country and were spread much too thin. The Ethiopians easily took over everything from its southern border to the capital. They wiped out all the Islamic Courts fighters, but could not instill order themselves. When Obama won the election they realized that their funding was about to dry up, so the Ethiopians retreated back across their border. The warlords popped right back up to seize power once again and again chaos rules.


If that is the kind of intervention that the international community is going to give, then yeah, they probably don't want it. After 20 years of chaos they finally had 6 months of peace and then external forces combined to destroy that peace.

For 20 years after BHD the world said "You fix it yourself".
They finally "fixed it themselves".
Then the U.S. backed Ethiopians broke it because they didn't like they way they fixed it.
Now we tell them to "fix it yourself"?
That doesn't seem completely fair..... if western interests are going to interfere and tell them HOW they want the country run, it only seems fair that they help in molding the country the way they want.

More on the situation here:
http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Som...060/story.html

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