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Originally Posted by Devils'Advocate
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As for tighter gun control, homocide rates were going up and up until strict gun control legislation was passed and then it has been declining....
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Once again you're wrong.
Bill C-71 passed in 1978, and the drop off in homicide rates started to
occur 4 years prior to that. Also, a similar decrease and "levelling-off" of homicides rates occurred in the US around the same time. Several researchers, including Alan Gilmour (1993 report of the Auditor General) have noted that there is no statistical evidence to support the claim that homicide rates in Canada decreased "as a result of stricter gun control laws."
From 1946 to 1965 the homicide rate was roughtly 1.1/100,000 people, that being BEFORE any gun control law was passed, and despite tougher regulation in 1969, there was a sharp increase in the homicide rate from 1966-1974, where it then started to drop off,
4 years prior to bill C-51 being passed in 1978. Violent crime also began to show a strong decrease in 1993, despite bill C-68 being passed
2 years later in 1995. Now unless you think criminals could see into the future, the drop in violent crime or homicide rates throughout the country had nothing to do with gun control laws being passed.
The average murder rate between 1970 and 1976 was 2.52, between 1977 and 1983
it rose too 2.67, despite bill C-51 being passed in 1978. Between 1984 and 1990 it was 2.41, between 1991 and 1997 it was 2.23, and yet the only changes made to legislation in 1991 were to the way FACs were handed out.
Between 1998 to 2004 it fell again too 1.82 and in 2007, it rose back up 1.98. The only legislation change made in the past 13 years was in 2006, the government said long-gun owners don't have to pay a registration fee anymore. I still believe you have to register your firearms, but there is a way to do it online for free.
Not exactly opening the floodgates to increase the murder rate once again.
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would you like to change your story again?
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Maybe you ought to change your story, since the rises/fall in homicides show no link to stronger anti-gun laws being passed.
Like you 'graph' so clearly points out, ever since tough 'gun control' laws have been passed in 1968, the homicide rate has risen at times, fallen at other times, but it has NOT fallen to the rate it was
BEFORE the passing of the first gun control laws in 1968.
In fact, like I pointed out above, the rate prior to the first gun laws in 1968 was 1.1/100,000 people. We have yet to see that again, as the rate has NEVER fallen below 1.5/100,000. Meaning since 1969 when those STRONG anti-gun laws were passed,
400 more people have been killed per year by homicide than prior to 1969, when no gun laws were present. Some years as many as
1,500 to 2,000 MORE people have been killed, DESPITE all those strict gun laws. So, in those 40+ years your graph points out, lets say roughly 500 MORE people were killed per year in those 40 years than prior to 1964, where the homicide was MUCH lower, thats almost
20,000 MORE killed despite the STRONG gun laws.
Look at how much violent crime rate has increased since 1962, DESPITE all those tough gun laws. It is still roughly
1% higher than it was BEFORE all those tough gun laws were passed.
Clearly pointing out that tough control has nothing to do with the homicide rates. Their rise/fall has NO coorelation too gun control.