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Originally posted by Looger@Jul 8 2005, 01:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube,Jul 8 2005, 01:16 AM
but while we're on the subject of said infrastructure, why do countires like pakistan, saudi arabia, and indonesia keep popping up as america's allies in the war against terror, when these are the exact places where terrorist indoctrination takes place?
saudi arabia is mostly the financial support as opposed to a country like pakistan, which is tremendously poor and welcomes foreign money for schools etc. without asking questions and supports radical islamists as long as their interests are the same for the next 30 minutes or so.
deal harshly with these countries, and results will happen.
dela harshly with secular regimes that fight the islamists tooth and nail, and you get what we have here. saddam brutally opressed opposition to his reign, which included #####e extremists and sunni extremists. iraq is now lawless, with not enough troops to patrol and quell terror activity.
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I think after 9/11 is when Western countries really knew that conventional warfare is obsolete as we knew it. If we had forknowledge of the events that have unfolded by walking into a brutally oppressed dictatorship, would the United States have done it? The answer is probably yes since Bush obviously wanted to continue his dad's work, but I'm not sure there would be the hasty interevention that defined the War in Afghanistan and Iraq.
I guess what I'm saying is (in a comparative sense), what would we see if the United States and its allies invaded and brought down Kim Jong Il and North Korea? I think the real issue would be how to deal with a poverty-stricken country that harbors millions of people that have been fueled for years to hate America and the Western way of life. I think we're seeing a similar situation in Iraq, so any surprise of this notion on the part of the Bush administration or other would simply be dumbfounding.