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Old 07-07-2005, 08:16 PM   #55
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Originally posted by Hack&Lube@Jul 8 2005, 01:16 AM
Read my post, this has nothing to do with support structure.

The terrorists are indoctrinated by their education, politics, cultures, and regimes in which they live and their ranks are filled by pious youths who are not nothing else but the surpremacy of their religion and hatred of the west.

Invasion, regime change, liberation, and democracy, is about reforming and creating a structure by which people can support themselves and govern themselves. It's about bringing education to people. It's about bringing properity to people so they won't have poverty driving them to extremism.
i wasn't responding to your post, but whatever

inading the correct countries might help.

iraq was not a base or supporter of al-quaeda, and saddam hussein has never been on their ramadan card list, even after paying families of palestinian suicide bombers.

the madrid and london bombings have more to do with the invasion of iraq then with the existing terrorist infrastructure.

but while we're on the subject of said infrastructure, why do countires like pakistan, saudi arabia, and indonesia keep popping up as america's allies in the war against terror, when these are the exact places where terrorist indoctrination takes place?

saudi arabia is mostly the financial support as opposed to a country like pakistan, which is tremendously poor and welcomes foreign money for schools etc. without asking questions and supports radical islamists as long as their interests are the same for the next 30 minutes or so.

deal harshly with these countries, and results will happen.

dela harshly with secular regimes that fight the islamists tooth and nail, and you get what we have here. saddam brutally opressed opposition to his reign, which included #####e extremists and sunni extremists. iraq is now lawless, with not enough troops to patrol and quell terror activity.

how again is iraq 'free'?

will iraq be free after repeated religious party administrations?

hosni mubarak said it best,

'if the whole middle east were a democracy tomorrow, who do the americans think would win, the democrats?'

these places are messed up but jumping in and attempting to fast-track them to suburbs and macdonald's etc. is not the answer. neither is supporting regimes and then invading and removing them. neither is using saddam's old thugs and torture specialists against the iraqi people again.

iraq's economy is a shambles, the terror level there has gone way up, casualties are mounting, there is no domestic security force that is effective at all, entire cities are out of government control for long periods of time, and it is all getting worse.

THAT is what breeds extremism.
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