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Originally Posted by Flame Of Liberty
I'd try, but seems to me that your Nobel prize winner was saying:
1. the plan is too small; then
2. throwing more money at the problem is no solution at all; so he arrived to the conclusion that
3. the best idea is to nationalize banks
...? Yes?
If so, I'm having trouble to decide which one of his position is dumber, 1st or last 3rd.
But I don't have a nobel prize so what do I know. Fighting debt problems with more debt and socialism is sure the way to go. Go figure.
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So... you agree with Obama's more measured approach, then. Good to know.
You can't use Paul Krugman as cover for your naked hatred of Obama without accounting for who Paul Krugman is--which if you'd been paying attention, you'd know was my point all along. The "Obama spends way too much money" critique is totally incompatible with Krugman's critique, which is that Obama is too careful and too conservative.
Look: this isnt' rocket science. And I feel I should explain what may have come across as some "hostility" in my post. Azure posted a quote and an argument. I responded with another quote and another argument. It's called having a civilized discussion, even though we agree on virtually nothing. Azure and I have these a lot; we rarely agree, but--and this is important--we try to understand what the other person is saying and where they're coming from.
You, on the other hand, pretended to know what we were talking about (not to mention pretending to have the first clue who Paul Krugman is) and posted "haha too funny" as though I should be embarrassed by Azure's post, which was in fact respectful, smart, and worthy of a response in kind. Your post actually diminished the entire level of discourse--and ironically, it came right after our discussion about how the anonymity of the internet destroys civility by insulating people from the necessity of understanding other points of view.
So Azure didn't "get" me--and he wasn't playing "gotcha" anyway. He was participating in a discussion.
I have no illusions that this post will "reach" you in any way. But I hope it does--I don't think you should change who you are in an ideological sense. Just introduce yourself to the idea that other points of view are possible and legitimate. I have long since abandoned the fantasy that I am "always right." I make mistakes. I say things that are wrong. I make predictions that don't come true. It's called being human--and recognizing the imperfection of your own point of view can open up the wide world of possibilities in which you can learn from people who disagree with you.
Not everything has to be a fight. Not everything has to be a "gotcha" game. Sometimes we can just have a civilized discussion--disagree with each other, in a civilized way--and learn about other points of view in the process. It's a beautiful thing.