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Originally Posted by AFireInside
A lot of people here disliking unions is silly to me. Sure the auto companies may have a bad union deal, but they had a hand in making that deal.
I think unions can be good and bad, but for myself the good outweighs the bad. I know some people personally, who have been screwed by big companies letting them go near retirement just so they don't get full pension. I know an older guy I used to work with, worked at a company for close to 30 years, was getting near retirement when his company was purchased by another large company, and he lost his pension, and was not able to retire. Far as I know he is nearing 70, and will never be able to retire.
These situations drive me nuts, and unions prevent these scenarios from happening. Sure there are bad deals, sometimes it breeds laziness, but I think those stories are GREATLY exaggerated.
Someone made a comment about working more than 8 hours and not getting O.T. sounds like someone is jealous. Why shouldn't someone get paid OT if they are working more than 8 hours a day 5 days a week? These rules prevent companies from taking advantage of their workers and forcing them to work too much without proper compensation.
Why does anyone even care? Good deal for them, it really won't affect you, don't buy the product if you have such a problem with the union, go buy a car from a company with no union, I don't see their vehicles with a much lower price tag, so in the end, no impact on you.
I find the blue collar comments disgusting. For the record I have a very white collar job. Also for the record, I DO NOT agree with giving these companies billions of dollars.
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I have no problem getting OT after 40 hrs in a week. Hell I work construction and I will get 40 hrs in by wed.
We have a big company here in the town I live in that makes all kinds of things from corn. They have locked out the union and have been in contract talks since september. Personally I think its funny because these idiots want $20 more an hour in raises in 3 years! ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?!? These people make more money than most people in this town. They start around $40/hr and want another 20 in raises of 3 years? hahah now they sit on the picket line while people that worked at hon building deskes for AIG and other big banks that cut the production so much that alot of them have been laid off. So they go down to GPC and take the job at wages that these union guys think is just down right horrible (18/HR) plus they get a $200 bonus for not being late all week. These same people were making $15/HR at HON and been there for 15-20 years or what not.
This union crap is a joke. I like I stated work construction (drive dump truck) I'm about 45 mins south of the qc area and found some work up in the qc but the local union striked the job site last summer because I'm not a union driver. Hell I asked about joining the union and I would have to pay them $200 a month just for the right to work! that is absurd to me. Why should I have to pay someone for the right to work when The state of Iowa is a right to work state.
I dislike unions because they breed lazy workers that just want more. God forbid people work more than 8 hours a day to get the job done.
A local VET is building a 24 hour emergency vet clinic and used a local contractor to build it. Well the same union thats on lock out down here went and pickited his place of business because he was using "scabs" to build his new vet clinic. Thats a load of crap!
Unions had their place just not any more.