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Originally Posted by Bring_Back_Shantz
Okay, I'm gonna have to say that this reasoning sounds dubious at best for a few reasons (all as I understand them, but I believe pretty accurate):
1) The most common form of a Bill of Exchange is a cheque.
The point of a bill of exchange is that the person giving it out is agreeing to pay, not the other way around. A traffic ticket is more like an invoice.
2) What what you're describing is more akin to a contractual agreement and one of the important requirements to be a binding contract is that it cannot be for illegal activity. So paying a "Bill" for speeding isn't valid.
However paying a FINE for speeding is totally legit, as that is not a contractual agreement, it is a sentance for an offence.
3) I've never had to sign a traffic ticket in my life.
4) As Dess said (no I'm not taking his side), being a dick to an officer is no way to get out of ticket.
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I fine is an attempt at a bill. If you ever receive a
Remittance for such fine that is also a form of currency. Agree that is is money by writing on it "I agree this is money" it and you have paid for the bill/ticket. This also means that in fact the city is being paid twice if you send your own money with the Remittance.
Remittance - Funds sent from one to another usually in payment for items purchased, services rendered, or value received.
- A transfer of funds for the purpose of paying a bill.
As far as a ticket being a contractual agreement. You are right. It's not, but it set up to be one. It is not, because of the Common Law Jurisdiction and there is no consent between two Persons in this transaction.
Illegal activity? Do you mean criminal offense? Of course these fines are not criminal.
Invoice definition (Business Dictonary) -
Non-negotiable commercial instrument issued by a seller to a
buyer. Also called a bill of
sale or
contract of sale, it identifies the both
trading parties and lists, describes, and quantifies the
items sold, shows the date of
shipment and
mode of transport,
prices and
discounts (if any), and
delivery and
payment terms. In certain
cases (especially when it is signed by the seller or
seller's agent), it
serves as a
demand for
payment and becomes a
document of title when
paid in
full.
Types of invoice include
commercial invoice,
consular invoice,
customs invoice, and
pro forma invoice.
As for signing a traffic ticket or any fine that is not in Alberta. However NEVER sign for something. It automatically puts you in dishonor and is the first step in having to appear in court.
bill of exchange 16. (1) A bill of exchange is an unconditional order in writing, addressed by one person to another, signed by the person giving it, requiring the person to whom it is addressed to pay, on demand or at a fixed or determinable future time, a sum certain in money to or to the order of a specified person or to bearer.