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Old 03-17-2009, 03:01 PM   #117
Calgaryborn
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Originally Posted by Hack&Lube View Post
To me, people who say things like that make me feel that their imaginations just weren't big enough. I don't have a deep understanding of it, but I can easily see order arising from chaos without a helping hand. Einstein said that God doesn't play dice with the universe but Quantum Mechanics is becoming one of the basic fundamentals of understanding our universe and reality. I'm not saying that you can't believe in God, but it seems a bigger leap of faith to put your trust in human institutions of religion and simply choosing one of them as right and rejecting the rest as wrong and then determining your entire life view upon that belief...but hey, that's why it's called faith.

It's a very innate and human desire to find purpose and order in life. It's a product of evolution (or God if you will).
If your imagination is big enough to believe something came from nothing or order from disorder why can't you see the possibility that one religion out of the million plus on this planet might be right or even they are wrong and God is unrevealed? Doesn't current scientific observation conflict with something coming from nothing or order arising from chaos?

There are three possibilities:

1. Everything came from nothing(hardly compatable with science)

2. Stuff has always exist and is merely changeing and becoming more complexed and ordered (means the law of thermal dynamics is wrong)

3. Something beyond our observation made the order we now see(unproveable scientifically)

Being convinced of any of these requires trust in an unknown. Your evolutionary theory and my faith are built on a trust in one of these. One or two is required as a foundation for evolution. Your world view is built upon it. Three naturally is the foundation of my world view. My observation of the natural world is built upon that foundational belief.
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