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Originally Posted by Finny61
Well sorry sir but your ministers/reverend/pastors etc of the world get paid to sit and talk with you and challenge you just like you want to challenge religion. So I say your best chance at reason is speaking with them, not us.
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Actually I've found far more depth of thought and knowledge in forums than I ever have talking to a pastor. Most pastors I've spoken with aren't interested in discussing the reasons for their faith, only the application. Questioning the foundations (biblical inerrancy, salvation by grace through faith, etc) rapidly leads to exhortations to pray and submit and, basically, stop thinking and just accept.
Though not always, I've met a few that I've had very interesting discussions with, but not really in the churches I've been a member of. Though I've been mostly part of the evangelical non-denominational group.
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Originally Posted by Finny61
All these weekly threads and yes they are weekly, they want to challenge an institution, thing is you can't prove to me there is no God just like I can't prove to you there is a God so then it comes to finding reasoning and who better to ask then the people that get paid to do what they do.
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Of course I can't prove to you there's no God, and I wouldn't expect you to prove to me there is a God (though I might gain insight into why you believe what you do that might lead me on a different path in my own mind). I would expect it's God's job to demonstrate himself.
Unfortunately the people paid to do what they do have proved inadequate to the task, while the people I've discussed things with on various forums have provided profound thoughts and insights, including this very forum, and including both religious and not-so-much.