[Thor]

Originally Posted by Swarly

So you are just against all religion in general, that is a different argument. However, unless raising any child as religious is abuse there is nothing different about this case.

I'm not against children being brought up religious, as I have repeated through every post I've made so far.

I'm against when you take religion as the reason you seclude and remove your child from society in order to 'teach them properly.'

If a cult removes a person from society and teaches the children of that cult to respect a narrow and absolute world view everyone gets upset, but if a family like this one raises 12 children out of the school system and expects this to be good for them I for one don't think its a good idea.

These kids have access to the internet, so clearly they could learn about celebrities and the rest of the world if they wanted but they have no desire to do so right now, that will change. It seems the parents are teaching them well in school so there is no brainwashing by lack of information. The oldest brother won a scholarship to go to college. Sounds like they taught him better than most parents.

True, we don't know fully what exactly this family has tought them and has refrained from teaching them. For all we know his kids believe in Evolution, think the world is billions of years old, etc.. But its likely they have taught them as is seen in the video that the world is full of evil doers like Bush said, and that they are born sinners.

If their access to the internet is not controlled like I suspect it is, they are in trouble, if they have the access we hope they do, then they will at least be given all the exposure they need to decide for themselves.

But the problem I have is why the parents exclude them from public or private school, I mean its the UK not the US school system

Believe it or not people are allowed to do and think what they want as long as it doesnt hurt other people. That is the big difference between this case and your example of Muslims sending their kids to kill Jews.

If this girl and her family believe the only salvation is jesus, that means the rest of the humanity that doesn't agree is flawed. This mindset is from her young age going to define her for the rest of her life without her being given a chance to decide this for herself. She has been given no choice but to believe ONLY what her parents tell her, and in this case its absolutism. Which is sad, cause she's obviously a smart girl.

That is the difference between having a crazy idea about a magical space being who wants you to love other people and live a modest life, and abuse.

While the magical space being wants those things, theres a massive problem with what your not addressing. That magical being also justifies all kinds of evil, and even if you disagree people have throughout history 'interpreted' the holy books to suit their agendas.

If this girl was told from birth that black people are inferior and that slavery is justified in the bible (which it is) are you going to support her parents for just raising her as they saw fit? Long as she's smart, has good grades, etc.. Right??