Bell has their 6120 sat. system [Hi definition no Pvr] on sale for $154. I paid $399 in Dec. I don't know if this includes instalation or program credits. Customer service ranges from terrible to very good. Forget trying to pirate Bell now or in the near future. Bell also has Center Ice and TsN HD that Shaw doesn't have. You may have to or want to upgrade your TV with this system but it still works on a regular TV .
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