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Knalus · 03-09-2009, 03:08 PM

I hate the idea. I dislike the expectations around tipping in the first place. The percent that is "expected" for a tip keeps going higher and higher - it used to be 10%, now, I'm not sure what it is. I also hate that if I don't tip up to 15-20%, I'm considered cheap - regardless of how good the service was. If the tip is supposed to be a reflection of the service, then why is it a percentage of the bill? Why should the fact that I ordered a lobster mean that the server gets more money? The worst is when you go to places like Earls or Boston Pizza. There you see pretty girls standing around being pretty, not doing anything, and they expect a bigger tip at the end of the meal than when I go to Denny's or Humpty's and order a coffee and sit there for a few hours studying. At those places, the girls there come by often, make sure the coffee is hot and full, and generally WORK. I try to tip them appropriately (once, for exceptional service, I tipped $25 for a $2.50 coffee, but I don't usually do that). Why does the lazy "pretty" girl at Jack Astors expect more for less, and why am I cheap if I don't deliver it? Boston Pizza is even worse, tho. They have a mandatory tip-out - the waitress is forced to pay the back (cooks, busboy's) a portion of the tip. I can understand the principal - they are a large part of what makes a tip happen. What I hate is the fact that the tip-out is a mandatory percentage of the bill, not a percentage of the received tip. This is just wrong, and should be an illegal business practice in my book.

My problem with your idea is that it once again solidify's the price of the tip as being non-optional, and not a reflection of the server's skills, but as a mandatory percentage of the bill. A server should get paid for his or her service, regardless of how much money I decide to spend on my meal - not something the server has (or should have) any control over. You want to make a system that would make me happy? Pay your servers a decent wage based on their abilities/work ethic, mark up your food a porportional amount (10% would make sense to me), then place the term "Tipping completely optional" on your bill. It would be nice to finally have the tipping system back to the way it used to be, and not just automatic and compulsory anymore.

03-09-2009, 03:08 PM	#44
Knalus Powerplay Quarterback Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Calgary Exp:	I hate the idea. I dislike the expectations around tipping in the first place. The percent that is "expected" for a tip keeps going higher and higher - it used to be 10%, now, I'm not sure what it is. I also hate that if I don't tip up to 15-20%, I'm considered cheap - regardless of how good the service was. If the tip is supposed to be a reflection of the service, then why is it a percentage of the bill? Why should the fact that I ordered a lobster mean that the server gets more money? The worst is when you go to places like Earls or Boston Pizza. There you see pretty girls standing around being pretty, not doing anything, and they expect a bigger tip at the end of the meal than when I go to Denny's or Humpty's and order a coffee and sit there for a few hours studying. At those places, the girls there come by often, make sure the coffee is hot and full, and generally WORK. I try to tip them appropriately (once, for exceptional service, I tipped $25 for a $2.50 coffee, but I don't usually do that). Why does the lazy "pretty" girl at Jack Astors expect more for less, and why am I cheap if I don't deliver it? Boston Pizza is even worse, tho. They have a mandatory tip-out - the waitress is forced to pay the back (cooks, busboy's) a portion of the tip. I can understand the principal - they are a large part of what makes a tip happen. What I hate is the fact that the tip-out is a mandatory percentage of the bill, not a percentage of the received tip. This is just wrong, and should be an illegal business practice in my book. My problem with your idea is that it once again solidify's the price of the tip as being non-optional, and not a reflection of the server's skills, but as a mandatory percentage of the bill. A server should get paid for his or her service, regardless of how much money I decide to spend on my meal - not something the server has (or should have) any control over. You want to make a system that would make me happy? Pay your servers a decent wage based on their abilities/work ethic, mark up your food a porportional amount (10% would make sense to me), then place the term "Tipping completely optional" on your bill. It would be nice to finally have the tipping system back to the way it used to be, and not just automatic and compulsory anymore.