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Old 06-24-2005, 08:09 AM   #12
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What "deal" did Harper make with the Bloc?

They are both seeking the same thing...the removal of the band of buffoons from power. I dont recall the PC's promising any sweetheart deals to the Bloc for their support, or vice-versa.

Now the Liberals on the other hand? Stronach given a cabinet post to cross the floor, the NDP gets their budget passed under the Liberal banner for support in the non-confidence motion, etc etc.
What deal did Martin make with the Bloc? A promise to bring the Liberal's own same-sex marriage bill to a vote? Harper used the separatists in an effort to force an election (which every political analyst in the country said would benefit no party except for the BQ). You can't even compare the two.

So I suppose everytime the Liberals introduce legislation that the Bloc supports they're going to be accused of "making deals with the separatists" now, right?

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No, but he is pointing out the absolute hypocricy of Martin and the Liberals.
Actually, I was pointing out the absolute hypocricy of Harper when he accuses the Liberals of making deals with separatists. If that's not the pot calling the kettle black, then I don't know what is.

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The whole damn thing needs a massive overhaul, but no one right now has the balls to do it. I suspect years ago there was a party that would of at least tried, but they too were Western based and therefor comletely ignored from the get go by the electors in the east.
And why shouldn't they have been? The Reform Party started as a Western protest party by their own admission. What did they offer in their platform that would make anyone East of Manitoba want to vote for them as opposed to the Liberals, PC, or NDP?

And as I said in the other thread, if anyone here doesn't like what's in C-48, you have nobody to blame but the Conservative Party. Let's not forget that the original Liberal budget was initially supported by the CPC. It was only after damaging testimony from the Gomery Inquiry that Harper smelled blood in the water and tried to force an election by voting against a budget he was once happy with.

Make no mistake, the Liberals made a budget that was CPC-friendly. When Harper pledged to vote against it, Martin had no choice but to turn to the NDP for support. It was a miscalculation by the Conservatives, and they lost big-time.
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