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Originally Posted by Madman
Oh I forgot - DESS, do you ever travel east or west of the City on the Trans Canada highway?
If so, you better get your wallet ready and bend over, because I have a feeling Canmore, Strathmore, Brooks, Medicine Hat, Swift Current, etc etc will be offering you the same friendly hospitality.
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Why would they charge us? I'm sure there isn't a problem with Calgarians clogging their roads during rush hour. My proposal isn't gratuitous. Your example really isn't a good response to what I've been saying and you clearly missed the part where the toll is only in effect during rush hours Monday - Friday.
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You better cap all growth for the City then too by your logic.  |
If that's your conclusion, you're not following my logic. lol
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If the City can't handle the traffic increase from outlying communities, then there is no chance they'll be able to handle the growth of the City itself.
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The city already can't. Where do you live? lol
I never said my proposal is going to fix all of Calgary's problems. I just want to ease some of the congestion on our roads caused by commuters from parasite communities during rush hour.
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What about people who commute further than Airdre etc? What about Fort Macleod or Crossfield or Vulcan or Starthmore? You better tax them too - but wait, how will you know they are coming into town strictly to come to work? What if they have a specialist appointment at the Foothills Hospital? Or are Hospitals yours too?
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If they come infrequently they won't be flagged as commuters. The multi-nova type system I've described sends a bill to the commuter every month. If you are only coming into the city a few times a month for appointments or whatever, you will not be billed. Even if you come during rush hour. I'm targeting commuters during rush hour with my proposal. I've got to ask, are you even reading what I write? lol
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Where is the cutoff distance for your toll? Why would you toll daily commuters that spend money daily in the City and not toll people who are visiting or vacationing for 1 or only a handful of days? They are inserting less revenue into the City than the daily commuters are.
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Commuters don't spend money here. They earn it, then take it back home to spend. They also pay municiapl taxes to cities other than Calgary with the money they've earned in Calgary. Do they come here to shop? Sure they do, but I'll bet they don't come during rush hour. All other times they are very welcome to come here at no charge whatsoever.
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We better disperse Provincial and Federal funding by area then too. Because any money a non-Calgarian puts into Calgary somehow becomes yours and yours alone. Who is funding the Deerfoot Improvements? Who is funding the Ring Road? Who is funding the Crowchild improvements? Fack, who is funding the LRT expansion? You guessed it, the Proince and the Feds - who everyone pays taxes into. Give your head a shake and do some of your own damn research.
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Again, go back and read my original post. I clearly stated all of my research wasn't done. I was just giving you guys the flavour of what I'm working on since it was topical to the discussion. Well maybe the Province does fund Deerfoot 100% (STILL waiting for proof of this), I'm pretty sure it doesn't fund all of the feeder roads that come off of Deerfoot. It would be very easy to work around the Provincial ownership of Deerfoot issue by saying the toll is actually for using Calgary's infrastructure during rush hour. I mean, you have to exit Deerfoot onto a Calgary road at some point. If you're driving right through Calgary and not exiting at all, we'll have cameras that will flag that as you exit the city limits on the other side of town and cancel the charge.
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Originally Posted by valo403
No, no, under this incredibly well thought out plan only people who live outside of calgary have to pay. If you live in Calgary and travel outside the city you can slip by for free, genius really. There's just the small issue of it being blatantly unconstitutional.
There's nothing wrong with toll roads, they're pretty much essential in a large city, but you can't pick and choose who has to pay the toll.
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There are going to be ways to work around this...there always are.