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Old 03-01-2009, 07:36 PM   #76
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Originally Posted by Nage Waza View Post
LOL. I think you are confused with who you are as a person, and who Longsuffering is as an ID on this site. If you are worried I am somehow tarnishing your reputation, then do 2 things: Stop linking to racist websites (you say you won't again and it was an accident) and start thinking of where your points are from (at least where you learned the so called facts from).
You've made some wild accusations. I'm curious, what are the points I've made in this thread that you take issue with?

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And yet the Conservative government is doing everything in its power to curtail free speech, at least speech that criticizes Israel.
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I find it ironic that you accuse ANYONE of instituting collective punishment against Israel. Collective punishment is Israel's stock in trade.
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Please don't be so obtuse. Obviously when I write Israel, I mean the policies of the democratically elected Israeli government.

And save the old "basis in prejudice' line that defenders of Israeli policy trot out anytime the actions of the Israeli government or military are criticized.

The situation in Gaza and what has been done to average Palestinians living there speaks volumes. To suggest Israeli policy is wrong is hardly 'prejudice'.
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And yet Canadian soldiers don't indiscriminately target ALL civilians in order to get at Al-Qaeda.

Thanks for making my point.
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Even though it was mentioned in the very first paragraph, the Tories are threatening to cut the funding of the CAF because of comments critical of the Government and of Israel. Perhaps this makes it easier for you. Sorry for assuming people might actually try and stay familiar with the issues.
(This post included the link to a website that can fairly be called an antisemitic website, however the page I linked to was a letter to Jason Kenney from the Coordinator of a group named "Independent Jewish Voices". As I've already acknowledged, I should have reviewed the hosting website before using that link, but regardless neither my post or the linked letter contains anything remotely antisemitic.)

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Ostracized you say? You mean like Avigdor Lieberman? No wait, this 'gentleman' is set to become a king maker in the next governing coalition of Israel.

The Forums favorite pundit Christopher Hitchens had this to say about Mr. Lieberman.
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Tell me I didn't do that.

Obviously I'd wanted to provide a link supporting my belief that the Harper government was curtailing free speech by threatening to stop funding organizations that voiced opinions different than those of the government. As Blankall has pointed out, and as I should have discovered by looking at the main page of the site, I linked to what does appear to an antisemitic site.

I am deeply sorry for that and apologize to the forum.

I am a critic of what I believe to be poor policy as it relates to average Palestinians by the Israeli government, and have been very critical of what I believe are excesses committed by the IDF in Gaza. I am not however, an antisemite.

Thank you Blankall for pointing out my error and allowing me to set the record straight.
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Nice retort.

Nothing to say about Avigdor Lieberman and what he stands for?
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Are you going to continue avoiding the question of Avigdor Lieberman forever? Is it because he doesn't fit into your idealized view of the 'good guys' and 'bad guys' in this conflict? It's not as black and white as you insist. Neither side can seriously claim any moral highground.

Mr. Lieberman's stated positions make it hard to call him a 'good guy'. Is that where you're having a problem?

What are the prospects for peace if Mr. Leiberman and his Party are major players in the next Israeli government?
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LIE - and proof of your anti Islam bias.
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LOL - No, no hatred of an ethnic/religious group there.
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Thanks Nage. You saved me the time and effort of finding any of the other hateful, ignorant stuff you've posted.
Where is the hate? Where is the antisemitism? Where are the lies?

While we're here, lets look at the post that set you off.
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Long suffering, you started all this by calling me out in another thread
(That must of been heinously antisemitic!)

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His comments, at least as reported in the link provided, are no worse than literally dozens of comments directed at Muslims posted on these forums.

His comments are obviously wrong and misinformed but if the test of promoting hatred is intention, then I think the judge ruled correctly.

Its disingenuous to compare Ahenakew's comments to White Supremest or Clan rallys - because of the intent and the ongoing nature of their hate speech.
I am not sure where you got any of your so called facts from, but can you please post the dozens of posts in this forum that his comments were no worse than?

His comments are not just wrong and misinformed, they have a purpose, to promote hate. What else could his intention be? He was a politician when he said them. His comments are just as bad as the supremacist /clan rallys, except he is Native.
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Maybe once the game is over I'll look through some of your posts. You believe Israel can do no wrong and consistly make NO distinction between Hamas/Hezzbollah and mainstream Islam.
Oh, here is some hate. We find it in your posts.

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Hey, you still lurking until you find a way to bash Israel? You made some accusations (lies) in another forum, then slithered away.
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Israel is fighting an enemy that is hiding among a civilian population. In fact, a similar enemy are doing that to Canadian soldiers as well.

I am sure you know this, but you will continue to spout your nonsense again.
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It is suckers like you that fall for this time and time again. And if you are no sucker, then you might be a hateful person, since I cannot fathom how people cannot see this. I know you do see this, yet you continue to repeat the rhetoric.
(I'm still wondering what rhetoric he claims I continue repeating.)

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Why don't you go back to your venomous websites you like to read.
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Of course there can be debate, but Moon represents several of the posters here who have one purpose - hate
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There is a nation in Israel's place called Hamas. Girl's are not allowed to go to school, there is no freedom of religion, all political opposition is murdered, people are forced to prey, there is no farming or gardens, just dust
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I don't buy it. This has been your most moderate post on the subject. Longsuffering lurks and attacks, and basically got busted. I suspect he is guilty like many of the others hunting down threads on Israel. And you wrote it off like it was all an accident??
(Lets look at posting history and see who hunts the Israel threads)

The record speaks for itself. You believe (as I've demonstrated) anyone and everyone who disagrees with you is antisemitic.

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