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Originally Posted by DESS
A couple of things. First of all, $59,000 is too low and I'm not sure where you got that number. My guess is that is an extremely outdated number for veteran teacher (maybe from the 1990s?). Here is what teachers actually make. In case you don't feel like checking the link, it is from that Alberta Teachers' Association website, item 3. A teacher with his/her Masters of Teaching (basic requirement for a teacher coming out of the UofC) with 0 years of experience makes $54,449/year. A teacher with 11 years of experience makes $82,999/year.
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First of all, a Masters is not the basic requirement for teaching. Many teachers do not obtain their masters until years after teaching, but since you know so much about teachers, I am not sure why you make such a incorrect statement.
Really though, that is beside the point. $54,000 is an ok wage, nothing great but enough to get by on. After 11 years $83,000, that is a pretty good wage, a decent wage that someone with 6 years of schooling and 11 years of experience deserves. Especially someone doing a job as important as teaching the people who will run our country in the future. We aren't talking about Tim Hortons employees here. One thing that you should be happy about is that teachers only get a raise of whatever the cost of living increase is.
Here are a few other starting salaries.
Chemical engineering grads' - $63,749
computer science majors - $56,921
engineering graduates - $56,336
finance and accounting graduates - $48,795 and $47,413
Economics - $52,926
Nursing - $52,129
Remember, these are mostly 4 year degrees. These starting salaries seem pretty close to what the teachers start out at. So, why are you so pissed off?
Lets look at an entry level clerk position in the federal government. Someone who answers phones.
https://psjobs-emploisfp.psc-cfp.gc....noBackBtn=true
Starting salary is $40,101.
What is the educational requirements? Oh ya, Successful completion of secondary school.
So are you telling me that 4-6 years of post secondary education is not worth an additional $14,000 a year starting? Like really I don't understand you. Are you just pissed off because you don't make as much as teachers do, so you are trying to find someone to vent your anger on?
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I have a degree and I do enjoy my job. Just because, as a taxpayer, I feel as though I'm getting a raw deal with the agreements we've made with teachers' unions and teachers as a result, doesn't mean I don't like my job.
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Please see above....
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And it's very insensitive of you to minimize "minimum vacation time allotments" (you used the derogatory word "quibble" and you lumped it in with "BS") and the effects these have on real people. I suggested that more than half of Calgarians do in fact receive the minimum, but actually I'm sure it's way more than half. I'm having a hard time finding Canadian stats to back me up, but this American link is at least food for thought - it shows just how little holiday time people actually get. The national average in 1996 for full-time employees was just 7.6 days of paid holiday time.
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The word "quibble" is far from derogatory.